Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai are One
and the Same
By Arjan D. Bharwani
62. CONVERGENCE-PINPOINTED!
Shri R.K. Karanjia, the Editor of a
widely read and leading English Weekly of Bombay, 'BLITZ', has
published his interview with Bhagavan Baba, in the issue dated
11th September,1976. During a prolonged conversation Shri R. K.
Karanjia had asked specific questions regarding the phenomenon of
incarnation and the Oneness of Shirdi Sai and Sathya Sai.
Bhagavan's replies to these deeply
explosive and interesting queries, are highly enlightening and
convincingly impressive, which clearly establish the Truth of
Oneness of the Sais. These conversations are indeed thought
provoking rare gems of information which merit special attention
and 'quoting repeatedly. Hence verbation of this liberty to
reproduce the dialogue:-
Q.: At the outset, Swamiji we would
like to know something about your triple incarnation - past,
present and future-that is, from Shirdi Sai Baba to Sathya Sai
Baba and the Prema Sai Baba to come, according to your prophecy?
BABA: First of all you must grasp
the complete oneness of the three incarnations of contemporary
times with those of the past like Rama and Krishna. That is a
difficult task. When people cannot understand the present, how can
they comprehend the past? Every incarnation is full and complete
in relation to the time, the environment and the task. There is no
distinction between the various appearances of God as Rama,
Krishna or Sai.
Rama came to feed the roots of Truth
and Righteousness, Krishna followed to foster the plant of Peace
and Love. Now these sacred Principles are in danger of wholesale
destruction by reason of human weakness under the onslaught of
evil forces. They are overcoming the good, the spiritual and the
divine in man. That is why the present Avatar has come invested
with the totality of Cosmic power to save Dharma from
anti-Dharma.
Why God takes human form
Q.: By the present Avatar, you mean
Sai Baba?
BABA: Yes I incarnate from age to
age, time to time, to save Dharma from anti-Dharma. Whenever
strife, discord and disharmony overwhelm the world, God,
incarnates in human form to show mankind the way to love, harmony
and peace.
Q.: That is understandable. But
skeptics wonder why God should assume a human form?
BABA: Because that is the only way
to incarnate the God within man. The Avatar takes the human form
and behaves in a human way so that humanity can feel kinship with
Divinity. At the same time he rises to godly heights so that
mankind can also aspire to reach God. The realisation of the
indwelling God as the motivator of life is the task for which
Avatars come in human form.
Previous Avatars like Rama and
Krishna had to destroy a few individuals who could be identified
as enemies of the godly way of life and thus restore the dharmic
path. Today, however, wickedness has tainted so many that humanity
itself stands under the threat of destruction. Therefore, in my
present Avatar, I have come armed with the fullness of the power
of formless God to correct mankind, raise human consciousness and
put people back on the right path of Truth, Righteousness, Peace
and Love of Divinity.
Message of Triple Incarnation
Q.: Why had this task to be divided
into three separate incarnations of the Shirdi, Sathya and Prema
Baba?
BABA: They are not separate. I have
already mentioned the complete Oneness of the three in the final
objective of the mission. I will give you an example. Take a kilo
of gur. The whole of it tastes sweet. Next break it into small
pieces. Each of them is sweet Finally break them further into
small grains. You find the same sweetness in them. So the
difference is one of quantity and not quality. It is the same with
the Avatars Their tasks and powers requisite to them differ
according to the time, the situation and the environment, but they
belong to, and derive from, one and the same Dharma Swarup or
Divine Body.
Let us take the example of FRUIT. It
begins with the SEED, which grows into the TREE and from it comes
the FRUIT. WORK can be compared to the SEED, WORSHIP to the TREE
and WISDOM to the FRUIT.
THE previous Avatar, Shirdi Baba,
laid the base for secular integration and gave mankind the message
of Duty that is WORK. The mission of the present Avatar is to make
everybody realise that since the same God or Divinity resides in
everyone, people should respect, love and help each other
irrespective of caste, colour or creed. Thus every WORK can
become an act of WORSHIP. Finally Prema Sai, the third Avatar,
shall promote the evangel that not only does God reside in
everybody, but everyone himself is God. That will be the final
WISDOM, which will enable every man and woman to rise to be God.
Thus the three Avatars carry the
triple message of WORK, WORSHlP and WISDOM.
SHIRDl BABA INCARNATE
Q.: Did Shirdi Baba actually claim
that he will be born eight years after his death in 1918?
BABA: Yes, he did. This has been
recorded by Kaka Dikshit as well as a number of other devotees who
were with Shirdi Baba.
Q.: What makes you so sure are
Shirdi Baba incarnate?
BABA: The knowledge of my own
authentic experiences of course. The very fact that I announced
that I am Shirdi Baba 40 years ago ....... when nobody in this
part of the South had known or even heard of Shirdi Baba, proves
this fact.
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