Conversation with the Divine
Camp Group, November 2002 Morning (Women)
1. How do we
know you are always with us?
Swami: If you
are there (Atma), I am there. If you are not there, I am
2. Why does
anger come and how can we control anger?
comes because we are disappointed. We are disappointed
because we have desires.
3. How can we
serve you more?
best way to serve God is to love all serve all.
4. How can we
get unity in thought, word and deed?
need integration. What you think is what you say. What
you say is what you do. (Integrated Personality:
thoughts, words an deeds)
5. Is it wrong
to pray for others?
Swami: Self is
everything. It is Aham Brahmaasmi, tatwam asi, ayam
atman brahman, prajnaanam brahman. Therefore when you
pray for the self, it is all inclusive, as the self is
ATMAN. God is in you. Pray for the Self. Isn't that
selfish? Swami: Cut out the fish, and pray for the SELF
the Atma - Everyone is one
6. How do we
get self confidence?
need faith in self and self sacrifice
7. Swami, how
can we handle the situation when we trust others and
unconditionally show love of Swami to the persons, who
turn around and quietly exploit and deceive the giver of
is no bad at all. It depends on how you see or perceive
things. The perceived or experienced situation should be
considered like a passing cloud, a "jump and a bump". If
stuck from behind, consider that one had received a good
massage therapy and did one some good. Love them anyway;
your loving nature gradually changes the person. Love,
Love, Love - just keep loving. This is the true road to
8. My life is
My message! How are we supposed to follow this?
watch me and follow me and my teachings, what I do. I am
9. What is
expansion of Your life?
Swami: That I
10. How can we
as a group serve you more Swami?
Whatever you do, do it with love. Love All, Serve All.
Work is worship.
11. I read
Bhagawad Gita but I only see it here.
Karana Suddhi: 3 acts integrated with purity. All 3
aspects are here. That is why there is a lot of peace
12. Why all
this Maya is created?
is no Maya. Everything is 'Brahman ' It is just changing.
Afternoon (Women and Men)
1. Swami, can
you tell us about using white sugar in food items?
Swami: It is
better to use bellam (jaggery) compared to white sugar.
It is even better not to use any sugar. Diet control and
exercise are very important. Green leafy vegetables are
good. Roots (like potatoes, sweet potatoes, etc) are
bad, so avoid them as much as possible. Too much liquid
items (especially rasam) are not good. When rice is
mixed with too much rasam, the carbohydrates are rapidly
absorbed and raise blood sugar levels. Dried foods are
better. Steamed foods are better than boiled foods.
2. Swami, how
do we cross maya?
simple, there is no maya. Anything that dies or is
perishable has no maya. The only existence is Sat. Keep
mind clear with good thoughts. Sat Chit Ananda Sat -
purity, permanent - POSITIVE Chit - Jeevatma - NEGATIVE
Ananda Co-existing of positive and negative Sugar (Sat)
+ Water (Chit) = Syrup (Ananda) Sat - that (beyond
senses - positive) Chit - this Together, only ONE
Negative: Without energy Positive: With energy (not
allergy) Ladies better at practicing this - they are
practical. Gents are better at giving platform speeches.
Worldy thoughts - negative Anandam - Positive (no form)
- Immortality Similarly Bliss, Sadness, Peace, etc, have
no form Removal of immoral thoughts (like anger, ego,
jealousy - negative thoughts) leads to Immortality. Do
Namasamarana all the time Haste makes Waste and this
leads to Worry
3. How to let
go of attachments?
Swami: How are
you binding to them? Same way, you let them go. Imagine
a cloth - First there is cotton. Then the cotton is made
into thread and finally cloth is made of bundle of
threads. Remove each thread and at the end there is no
cloth. You are not one person but three: the one you
think you are; the one others think you are; the one you
really are. Less luggage, more comfort, therefore more
pleasure. With desire = Attachment; Without desire =
Detachment Marriage is a mirage. It is a form of bondage:
First you have two legs, you get married and now there
are 4 legs; then you have a child and now there are 6
legs and so on. Bondage is attachment.
4. Swami, there
is too much work in America. We don't have time to do a
lot of other things.
have too much work because you want too much money. Don't
compare countries. You work for money and there has to
be balance. Money comes and goes but morality comes and
5. Swami, how
does one balance service at home and service to
question. It is very important to have the right balance.
First you have knowledge, then there is skill and
finally balance. Skill is the most important in the
achievement of balance. The knowledge acquired need to
be "skilled" not "killed". By talking, the knowledge
gets "killed" and the energy dissipated. Take away 's'
from skill and you get 'kill' and this leads to
imbalance. Everything is 'skill' including love.
6. How do we
deal with wrong thoughts?
discrimination. Everything is good in this world. If you
think it is wrong, then kill that thought.
7. Should we be
chanting Gayathri Mantra or Sai Gayathri?
differ but all are same.
Gayathri Manthra cure illnesses?
Swami: Yes, if
it is said the right way. Both men and women have equal
rights. Swami demonstrated the Gayathri mantra: Bhur
(body) Bhuvah (mind) Swaha atmic force). Savithri ,
9. Does a human
come back as a lower species after death?
birth and rebirth: Rebirth is always as a human though
the level may be different. Human birth is the last
everything is predestined, what role are we playing as
Swami: This is
a question of free will. Free will - only Divinity gives.
There is no 'free will' for humans. Past is gone. Future
is unknown. Limited free will for present - only moment
11. Is it wrong
to have any desires even if it is good such as longing
Swami: It is
good to have 'good desires' but bad to have 'wrong
desires'. There are many desires - that for Divinity is
most important. Human life is the most superior creation.
12. Swami, our
fear is we may not achieve everything (reach our goals)
in this life time.
worry about the present. This is not ordinary present.
This is 'Omnipresent'. Every action has a reaction. A
good action has good result. Results are different types
- some are immediate, some are quick (months to years)
and some are long (lifetimes).
13. Why does it
take different periods on one's life time to come to
Swami: It is 'prapti'.
Physical closeness does not guarantee anything.
14. Why do we
do bad when we know that it is bad?
Discrimination - Take time before you act. Don't haste.
Don't think too much. It is not good.
15. How do we
overcome fear of death?
Weakling. Too much desire leads to fear of death. Once
there is birth, there is already death. So don't worry
about death. The atma is eternal. Where there is
illusion (brama), there is no brahma.
16. Swami, what
happens after death?
body dies. Atma never dies. It is omnipresent.
17. Swami, it
is easier to practice your teachings in Puttarparthi
than in London.
a clay pot filled with water and it is suspended in air.
With time, some of the water in the pot evaporates and
the amount of water is decreased. However, if you
immerse the same pot of water in water itself, the water
level in the pot will remain the same. Bhakti is like
the pot - surrounding "Divine power". "Sat Sangam" =
good company. It is important to be in the midst of good
company always. Do good actions. Leave bad company
18. How do we
know if we are doing enough?
Swami: Do you
duty to the fullest "Dharmam". Just do your part. Duty
without desires = source (Divine) Duty with desires =
19. Swami, how
do we get our children more spiritually involved -
involved in things we are doing?
need to set a good example. Children are constantly
watching what the elders are doing. You do one bad thing
and you tell the child not to the same thing. You have
to set an example yourself by practicing. For instance
if a father tells his son to stop smoking, than he
himself smokes the son will ask why are you smoking and
do bad himself. Do it! Be it! Kids have a pure heart -
they don't have any dosham (bad qualities).
there is so much hatred and jealousy in this world. When
will it end?
all realize the divine in them and in others. Today,
love is conditioned. It should be unconditional love.
inter-religious marriages okay?
But cultures may be different.
22. How can we
serve our patients best without getting upset or other
things come in the way of how we treat them?
Swami: It is
your duty to serve every patient without any desires.
Don't separate 'my patient, your patient'. Have Divine
23. Swami, for
whatever reason, we are already abroad and working here.
Is it bad to stay there?
Swami: No, it
is not bad to stay there. Continue to do good things.
24. Swami, can
you comment on joint replacements and cloning. Swami:
Joint replacement is okay. Transplants are bad,
especially heart transplantation. Heart is a bundle of
desires - not natural. Heart transplant is not good as
the emotions are in the heart and transmitted from donor
to recipient. Doctors often brag about advance of heart
transplant and success. When ask how many days pt lived,
they say two or three. Are blood transfusions okay?
emotions even get transmitted with transfusion but on a
much lesser level and these are okay. If a part or
tissue needs to be replaced it is okay but duplication
an entire being is Gods job. Atma is Art
25. How does
one develop pure bhakthi?
having pure thoughts.
26. Swami, why
are Avatars only in India and not elsewhere?
a train with an engine and several compartments. Bharat
is chosen by the avatars as it is the engine and all
other countries are the compartments. It is so, because
Bharat has saints, yogis, jogis and bhaktas praying for
the advent of the avatars through japa, dhyana, yagna
and pooja. The fire in the engine is the 'yagna'.
27. Why is 'omkara'
done 21 times?
number is auspicious and number 21 is very auspicious.
It can also be 3, 6, 9, 12. 28. Swami, some
siddapurushas and the temple brahmins feel and say that
the "Gayatri Japam or Mantra" should not be chanted by
the ordinary women or females but only by certain "classified
females". Swami: Why Not? Gayatri is mother! Anybody can
chant Gayatri Mantra. Is the power equal Swami? Swami:
doing Punya Karmas in Bhoga bhoomi like the western
world is bereft of positive results for the welfare of
the world or universe, like the Yagnaas, charities and
service, Poojas in the existing temples etc.,." Swami:
The land that is treaded by the piety and the pious acts
by the piety will definitely yield good results. Does
the land gets it's purity from the pious people and not
30. Swami, what
can we do in the Sai work?
all, Serve all". Then he showed his abhaya hastam, and
said " Your hands are full and have nothing, this hand
is empty and has EVERYTHING". It has the highest
spiritual meaning of advaitic philosophy.
31. Do we need
to do meditation? Mind wanders during meditation.
single moment should be meditation. Everything is a
meditation - including work. People cannot sit for long
periods and concentrate to do meditation. Life is a
meditation. It is important to grow spiritually and not
just do namasmarana. Love all. Love whatever you do (not
materialistic). Practice pure love. These days, love is
32. Swami, we
have only two families in our center. Is this okay?
centers, it is quality that is more important not
33. What is the
meaning of the Bhagawad Gita? Is it the 5th Veda?
Swami: It is
the practical application of all 4 Vedas. It starts with
'dharma' and ends with mama. So the Gita is mamadharma (right
way of life)
34. How do we
know we are doing our duty?
Swami: Duty is
an English word. Dharma is important
35. What is the
difference between duty and dharma?
person being transferred from office to office packs up
his belongings and goes, he does his duty. But when a
person leaves his home for another, he packs everything
until the last item. This is dharma
36. How do we
Selfless service is nishkamakarma. Service without
return - that is what you are doing. You have come all
the way from U.S.A. to do service here.
37. Is Radionic
cleansing Baba, how to do it?
have to concentrate on your thoughts as soon as they
arise. Thought control leads to mind control, control of
Please bless my center.
Swami: I am
blessing your center and all the centers.