Sai Interview with New Zealanders
All: Here is an excerpt of an
interview given in late November to
overseas devotees from NZ. Many instructions - lessons for all
Baba: What's new? Ask
D: Baba, we come from such long
distance, travelling thousands of miles to
see you. Please bless us.
Baba: No, not thousands of miles..you have not even travelled
Have you made the journey inside your heart? You have not even
how can you say you've travelled so many miles....only a
What about your spiritual journey, still starting troubles?
First, go inside
to see Baba in your heart and then come here.
D: But I'm trying hard to make
that journey, still too many starting
Baba: Yes, Yes, I'm aware of all
your plans and weaknesses. Your first
enemy is Anger! Get rid of it and the journey to God will begin
Begin with a lot less luggage and it will be a smooth journey.
get rid of anger and jealousy, you'll not succeed. These are
devils that dance within you and torture you. Too much anger...Baba
has nothing to do with you, right?
D: How do we get close to you,
Baba: Distance is only in your
imagination! You are always close to me
when you realise that I'm in your heart. But until that happens,
I remain here
and you remain there, thousands of miles apart. No connection
Practice what I want you to do and then I'm yours automatically.
Eliminate your anger and jealousy; sublimate your ego and purify
heart...I'm there. Have you ever thought of practicing at least
idea, one teaching from Me? Do it, Do it, Do it! Then surely
come and grace will flow.
D: Swami, how do we get your Grace?
Baba: Grace is always there like
the ever-shining sun. When you open the
windows of your house to the Sun, light floods in removing all
amount of light depends on how much wide you open the window.
In the same
way, My Grace will depend on how broad your heart is, how
love is. You have too much anger in you! Remove all the evil
then all will be divine.
D: How do we work for Sai's
mission as true servants of the Lord?
Baba: For this Baba has given you
the Sai organisation. Make use of it to
your best capacity by doing service, by devotion and by being
all. Sometimes you're very impatient with the organisation. I
know, I know,
I watch everything...Baba makes rules and regulations for a
purpose. Without rules, without discipline, soon it becomes a
Discipline is the watchword in any spiritual path. Sai
not like Rotary or Lions Clubs!! It is not a family club, it is
spiritual and service organisation. The very name SAI stands
(S=Spiritual Transformation, A= Association (Social) Change and
I=Individual Transformation)...all these have to be achieved
through the organisation. But if you're not interested in
better to stay home and not waste our time.... time is precious,
speeding fast, make best use of every minute. Make every minute
minute for you and all around you. Have as few connections as
Have few attachments as possible. There is only God...wife,
daughter, son, this, that....all are mere passing clouds. Fix
on God only. Focus on God, do selfless service and be happy.
D: What about the Golden Age,
Baba: Yes, what about Golden Age?
When is it coming? No, it comes only
when your behaviour is Golden, your attitude is Golden, when
your heart is
Golden! Lead exemplary lives. As members of the Sai
organisation, I want
you to have good behaviour, good conduct. Remove anger, remove
remove falsehood and enmity, stay far away from the wicked and
manipulative...and then the Golden age will begin. Lust, anger,
selfishness- these are the strands that weave a cobweb around
these and you are free, blemishless.
D: Is bhajan a good antidote to
all evil qualities?
Baba: Yes, only if it's done with
love...love for God and love for all
around you. No use singing like a nightingale, when you are
acting like a crow!!
Don't make show like cinema stars. It will be waste of time for
First bring love inside you, then the love that comes out
voice will touch God. Pay strict attention to Bhava, Raga, Tala
Melody,Rhythm) that will touch God and transform all who listen.
it vibrant and don't let it drown in sorrow and pity...God
doesn't want your
pity, God wants your joy. Now talk is over, too much talking is
D: Before we leave, one last
Baba: Yes, you may ask anything.
D: What should be our daily
medication for a divine life?
Baba: Medication or meditation? You
need both. Be good, do good, see
good...don't fight, stick to the discipline of Sadhana
(spiritual practice), sing
the Name of God always; love all, serve all...accept everything
that happens to you as the will of God done for your own good...then
worry, no pain. But first, always act with dignity... that you
not animal, not animal.
D: Swami, what's the first step in
Sadhana (spiritual practice)?
Baba: Silence, silence of all the
senses...now go and practice Swami's
words and don't waste time in gossip. I bless, I bless all.