Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at
January 19, 2003
The Sunday Talk Given by Anil Kumar
“Master the Mind and Be a Mastermind”
January 19th, 2003
OM… OM… OM…
With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of Bhagavan,
Dear Brothers and Sisters!
Master the Mind
This morning I want to speak on the subject, “Master the Mind and
Be a Mastermind.” Quite often Swami says this: “Master the mind
and be a mastermind.” We have to understand what a mastermind is
and how to be one and, above all, find out what the mind is.
I’ll attempt to draw your attention to certain important points;
it is not possible to discuss them all. Bhagavan has dwelt at
length on all the points relating to this particular topic on
several occasions. So I won’t make any vain attempt to exhaust the
subject. My attempt is only to infuse, to instill and to trigger
interest among you to read Sai literature and collect the points
on this subject.
First of all, there are a few points I’d like to draw to your
attention. What does Baba mean when He says, “Master the mind”?
What does He mean by that? Evidently we have not mastered the
mind; therefore, we need to master the mind. Then the questions
come: How to do it, why to do it and what harm is there if it is
not done? If the mind is not mastered or if I do not master my
mind, what is the harm? Well, if we know the harm, then we’ll know
the positive help later.
If the mind is not mastered, what will happen? We will become a
slave to our mind. If we don’t master the mind, we will become a
slave to the mind. When we are slaves to the mind, we have to
oblige and act according to the dictates and commands of the mind,
as the mind is the master and we are the slaves.
The mind directs us in every silly way possible because the mind
is always extrovert. The mind is outward. The mind is external.
This outward, external, extrovert mind will always make me go
outward. It wants to see all the movies with the help of the eyes.
It wants to listen to all kinds of music through the ears. It
aspires to taste all the food available with the help of the
In other words, all the five senses will naturally oblige and
satisfy the mind. The senses are ready to oblige the mind as the
mind is located above the senses. Therefore, the mind will
naturally employ the senses to do whatever it decides, with the
result that the body becomes weak.
My friends, you’ll all agree with me, Bhagavan’s Divine discourses
focus on the mechanics and dynamics of the human personality,
which include the body, senses, mind, intellect and Atma. It is
along this line that all of His discourses flow, right from the
beginning. You should read them with this perspective.
The Senses Enjoy You
At one time, Bhagavan made this statement. I’m sure that most of
you must have heard it. We all say that we enjoy life. We all say
we are joyful with the help of the senses. But Bhagavan says,
“Really you’re not enjoying with the senses. The senses enjoy you.
The senses are enjoying you; you are not enjoying through the
senses.” The statement may appear to be rather vague at first; but
if we inquire, Bhagavan Himself gives the answer in the next
If you really enjoyed life with the help of the senses, you should
be stronger and stronger day-by-day. But this is not the case. The
senses enjoy at your expense and, ultimately, make you weak. After
every sensual enjoyment, one becomes weak. Therefore, who is
enjoying whom? You’re not enjoying -- the senses are enjoying at
How do the senses enjoy? The senses enjoy - the senses find their
expression - depending on the thoughts and the desires entertained
in the mind. So it is the mind that entertains the thoughts and
the desires. These are translated into action through the medium
of the senses, making the person ultimately weak.
In other words, my friends, if the mind is not mastered, if the
mind is not disciplined, if the mind is not kept in the proper
channels, we become weak. Rather, we grow in age faster than what
You Can Also Look Young Like Me
Bhagavan was commenting the other day, “All of you can look young
That’s what Swami said.
“All of you can look young like Me.”
It was a very tempting challenge indeed -- very tempting because
everyone wants to look young, though it is not so. So naturally
we’re interested to know.
“Swami, please tell us the secret of how to look young. Because we
have exhausted all the stuff, you know -- all the perfumes
available, the hair dye, the artificial teeth, plastic surgery,
what not. We’ve exhausted all the means to look young. And
evidently, we cannot ultimately hide our age. So let us know the
secret of looking young.”
Bhagavan said, “You can also look young, but only if you have no
worries and anxieties. If you have no worries, if you have no
anxieties, if you are free from thoughts, you can be young like
The answer is simple, but tough to accomplish because the mind
cannot be easily withdrawn, and therefore the thoughtless state
becomes a dream -- so difficult! The ‘no-mind’ state is the
ultimate reality. It is the ultimate step in spirituality or
sadhana, but it is so tough, so difficult to accomplish. It is so
simple to say, but that state is not so easy to accomplish.
And therefore, my friends, there’s every need to master the mind
so that we’ll be stronger, so that we’ll be healthier, so that we
won’t age too fast. Let us postpone that evil day -- we don’t need
to hurry it!
We Have No Satisfaction
Why do we need to master the mind? Because we have no satisfaction
-- the mind has no satisfaction. When the mind is present, there
is no satisfaction. The mind and satisfaction are not compatible.
Even if you offer it any number of delicious items, the mind still
wants more. Even if you have a lot of wealth, the mind wants to
acquire some more.
So the mind will never say, “Enough!” No! Nobody ever says that,
unless they go beyond the mind. Therefore, a man who does not
control his mind, who does not keep his mind in check, will be
carried away by the ways, whims and vagaries of the mind, which
are inexhaustible. Ultimately that state of mind will leave him
totally dissatisfied and depressed.
In fact, my friends, none of us have any valid reason to be
depressed or frustrated. It is rather strange to find many people
unhappy, but on inquiry you will find that the person has no
genuine cause to be unhappy. On investigation you will find that
he is unhappy, but not for any valid reason. He is unhappy because
he thinks the other man is happier than he is. (Laughter) This
sort of comparison, this sort of competition is making life
miserable. It is not his fault. It is the nature of the mind. It
is the nature of the mind, as it will never be satisfied at any
time. Therefore, the mind has to be mastered or disciplined.
Meditation is an Undisturbed State
So, once again, why do we need to master the mind? Spiritually
speaking, it is the mind that is the biggest obstacle between you
and God. The mind is like an iron curtain between you and God.
Therefore, this mind has got to be mastered. If not, what happens?
Many of us sit for meditation. The body sits there, but the mind
runs along to the market on the main street. (Laughter) Though
we’re physically alone, mentally we’re in a crowd. All those
things that we’ve forgotten long ago come back to our mind when we
sit for meditation.
So, meditation is an undisturbed state -- where any thought can
get into the mind. At least while talking, we cannot think because
we have to concentrate on the subject we are discussing -- or else
it becomes senseless talk. Therefore talking, at least, will make
you concentrate, whereas in meditation or silence the mind goes on
jumping like a monkey here and there. You look at your watch and
it is 7:30 -- time to get up, have breakfast, go to the office,
and tell everybody, “I meditated.” (Laughter) So what is it that
we meditate on? Nothing whatsoever.
Bhagavan even jokes at times, “In the course of meditation, the
husband is bothered about lunch and goes on giving instructions to
his wife about which curries should be prepared. So it is ‘curry
mediation’ but not ‘Divine meditation’.” (Laughter)
It also happens that he thinks of his first cup of coffee for that
morning, which has to be very, very hot. While he sits for
meditation, he inquires of his wife whether the hot coffee is
ready or not. It is ‘coffee meditation’, but not meditation on
So my friends, the mind is not mastered; the mind is not
disciplined. Therefore, even while we will sit quietly in the name
of meditation, it has become ridiculous, farcical, meaningless,
artificial, and purposeless -- without any goal. Therefore we are
restless. Really, if one is a spiritual man, if one really is
truly meditative, he should be peaceful. He should be loving, with
a smile and with a sense of satisfaction, remaining in a blissful
state. How many people are blissful? I haven’t found anyone. I
have seen many, many people. I have met many who say that they
meditate every day, but I feel like leaving their company because
they are incorrigible.
So my friends, the point is that meditation should take you to a
blissful state. Meditation should give you a supreme sense of
satisfaction; but, in reality, it is giving nothing whatsoever.
The goal is far from being attained. The reason is that the mind
is totally occupied. The mind has not been mastered. The mind has
not been disciplined. Therefore Swami says, “Master the mind.
Master the mind, control the mind,” which is most important.
You Will Not Be Benefited
Further, Bhagavan gave a reason: “If you don’t master your mind,
even if I stand in front of you, you are not going to be
Sometimes Swami will pass by us and we may not even notice -- even
if we see Him physically, the mind is not there. It is already
busy with the reservation tickets and the return journey. The mind
is not at all benefited because the mind is not there – you are
physically present, but mentally absent.
Therefore, a mind that is not mastered, a mind that is not
disciplined, is not going to be benefited even if one sits in
front of God – dare I say, even if he sits in the lap of God!
(Laughter) If the mind is not disciplined, it is no use at all. We
can see this from the person’s interactions – their individual
behaviour. We can easily see whether that person has benefited
from proximity or not. We can decide to what extent they’ve
benefited by their interrelationships, by their vanity and talk.
And therefore, this sort of mind, if it is not disciplined, if it
is not mastered, will certainly take us away from our spiritual
Mind is a Negative
From Bhagavan’s point of view, the mind is negative. The mind is
negative, the body is negative and the senses are negative. It is
only the soul, or the spirit, our consciousness, our conscience
that is positive. Atma is positive, while all the rest of the
components of the human system are all negative. That is what
Bhagavan says. So the mind is negative.
This morning a student asked me, “Sir, why is it that many people
come here and do namaskaar? A VIP fellow comes here, does
namaskaar and sits down. Who does he salute? Does he do namaskaar
for every devotee or to Swami? What does he mean?”
I said, “Hey boy, that is awful -- you’re awful, I pity you. When
a VIP such as an elected official, comes here and says,
‘Namaskaar’, it means that he finds God in you. He really
appreciates your fortune. He really appreciates your blessing, and
therefore he says, “Sai Ram, Namaskaar.” On the other hand, if you
mistakenly think that he is doing it for popularity and that it’s
only for your votes, well then your mind is negative and your life
has become negative.
” I admonished him like anything, “Ah-re, when will you grow up?”
Therefore, my friends, the mind is always a negative. We don’t
view things positively. Suppose Swami talked to someone. We try to
draw some conclusions:
“What does that man do? What could it be? What is the reason? What
is he going to do for Swami? What has he done in the past?”
What are you going to do with these details? What will you do with
these details and statistics? It will not help you because the
mind is negative. The mind is not ready to accept anything
Suppose I say something bad about a person, do you think he is a
good man? No, no, no.
“Last night I saw him with two Scotch whisky bottles.”
“Is that so?”
Ah! The mind is ready to accept it. (Laughter) Anything negative
is immediately accepted.
“He’s a good man. Do you think so?”
“I know the other side of it.”
Why should you say that you know the other side, ignoring the
positive side? The point is that the mind is negative. It is ready
to accept anything negative. It is not ready to receive anything
that is positive, anything that speaks of the good in others.
The Positive Mind
Master the mind -- see that good is accepted. See that good is
entertained. See that good is fostered. This is possible only if
we master the mind; so master the mind.
Bhagavan has put positivism in different ways. I can give you an
example. Since I’ve not gotten permission, I won’t mention names.
Bhagavan did not speak to this particular fellow for about five
years. He did not look at him. He did not speak to him for five
years. He was very close to Bhagavan. Somehow, we don’t know, he
was ‘under repair’ perhaps.
And naturally, as Bhagavan has said, “When the road is under
repair, there will be a ‘detour’ sign. So Bhagavan takes the
detour because the road of life is under repair. Until the repair
is over, the vehicle, the Divine automobile, won’t be going that
way. So he was ‘under repair’ for only five years. (Laughter)
This man, you know, took advantage of that period of testing,
though it was prolonged. He went through the Bhagavatham text in
the original Sanskrit. He went through it in depth, even though he
was never familiar with Sanskrit. He could not read it. He could
not write it either, but he learned the original script, and today
he can quote freely from the Bhagavatham.
Because he is also about sixty, I asked him, “Ah-re! Where did you
learn all this at your age?”
I asked him, “How do you know it?”
“Sir, that five year period of exile gave me the opportunity to
pick it up.” (Laughter)
So what is positivism? Positivism means to be benefited in the
worst of negative situations. That is being positive. When
everything is positive, when everything is favourable, if you are
happy, there is nothing great about it.
It was Bala Gangadhar Tilak who wrote the Bhagavad Githa while he
was in prison. In prison! Yes. Therefore, even a negative
situation can be viewed in the positive sense -- that is
spirituality. Spirituality means there is nothing negative in this
world. Whatever happens to us is for our own good. Preparedness,
alertness, unconditional acceptance, that is spirituality.
Devotion is not conditional. ‘If such-and-such a thing happens, I
am a devotee. If such-and-such a thing happens well, I will
continue to be a devotee.’ This is only business-oriented
devotion. It is using managerial skills on God. (Laughter) Or
rather, it is manoeuvring God, or manipulating religion, which is
total nonsense. It has nothing to do with religion at all.
I can give you another example. Names are not important. If you
are so particular that you need me to substantiate my statements,
I will introduce these people to you. But, I know that you are all
devotees and that you will go by what I say.
A Greater Miracle
One gentleman started explaining the great miracle of his life.
What was the miracle? It seems that while he was traveling in a
Tempo -- an auto rickshaw, as you know, a bigger one -- he met
with an accident - a head injury – and he was admitted to the
hospital. Bhagavan visited him both morning and evening until he
And this man explained from the dais, “Bhagavan saved my life from
this head injury. You know, I’m totally cured and Bhagavan visited
me every day. If Bhagavan will visit me again, I don’t mind having
another accident.” (Laughter)
There at the same meeting was another lady. They were all here I
tell you, big people, VIPs.
At the end of the meeting, she came to me and said, “Sir, have you
heard the entire talk? I can’t because I’m there in the front
“Madam, I heard all that he said.”
The lady continued, “In that same accident, I lost both of my
sons. Now what do you say to that? That man says on the dais,
‘Baba saved my life.’ Do you think it is a miracle? How do you
explain the death of both of my sons, age 25 and 22, who were
doing service here in Prashanti Nilayam? They were always devotees
of Bhagavan. I lost both of my sons, sir. How do you explain it?
If you think that saving the life of a person is a sign of
Divinity, is a sign of devotion, is a sign of the manifestation of
God’s power, how do you explain this tragedy in our family?”
I was really helpless. I looked at her and said, “Madam, only you
can explain. I have no answer. I pity you. Please, tell me how you
have taken it.”
She said, “When your life is saved, to feel so happy is a miracle,
no doubt. But for me to continue to be here, in spite of the death
of two of my sons, is a greater miracle.” (Applause) It is a
greater miracle, a higher miracle,” she said.
“You all have been here for the rewards, for the benefits. But I
continue to be here without that. It is a miracle how you find me
here. It is a miracle how you find me here, laughing and smiling,
serving Bhagavan day-in and day-out. This is greater miracle.”
Well, that was an incident that I cannot forget because readiness
or unconditional acceptance of the Divine Will is spirituality.
Spirituality is not conditional or rational reasoning or
acceptance, according to your preferences and choices. All of
these things come out of the mind because of its own nature. The
inbuilt nature of the mind is like that. Therefore Bhagavan says,
“Master the mind.”
So, ‘master the mind’ means that we have to make the mind develop
the spirit of surrender. We have to master the mind so that we are
able to exercise total control - a total ‘ceiling on our desires’
- so that the mind will not ventilate through the senses, enjoy
the world and turn ultimately weak. We have to master the mind so
that concentration is not lost. We have to master the mind so that
mind will learn to be happy with whatever it has or whatever
happens, with a spirit of satisfaction, complacency and
So, there is every need to be master of the mind because if we
don’t, in spite of all we have, we will continue to be miserable.
Whatever be the field, above all in spirituality, it is most
essential as the mind is the greatest and biggest obstacle between
God and us.
I also draw your attention to the need for a positive mind.
Bhagavan has given a number of examples. Instead of saying the
glass is half-empty, you can say the glass is half full of water.
You can say it is half full of water rather than saying it is
Really, sometimes people come and tell me, “Anil Kumar, you
committed two mistakes in your translation.”
I immediately say to them, “Ninety-eight were correct. Why don’t
you see that?” (Laughter) Perhaps you are too anxious to find
those two. Anyhow, I thank you very much. I’ll correct these
mistakes next time.”
That is what I tell them. I take it sportingly. So the point is,
the mind is always after these things, the pitfalls and the
Mind Always Wants to Judge
The mind has another evil tendency -- judgment. The mind always
wants to judge. The mind always says the other person is wrong,
the other person is less, the other person is inferior. Why?
Because the mind thinks it is superior by judging the other man,
by making the other man inferior, by considering the other person
lower. It is a ‘cheap’ characteristic of the mind. The chief
expression of the mind is to be superior by judging others as
inferior. So, mind always judges. Beware of judgment. Let us not
Well, why go that far? Three days ago, a lady came to me – an
elderly lady, aged fifty. She serves in the canteen. Well, I
didn’t like her - the way she stepped into our house wearing just
the canteen kitchen dress, that’s all. Perhaps she had come
straight from the canteen. Well, anyway, I couldn’t bear her
sight. Two other ladies, who looked almost like serving maids,
also accompanied her.
They immediately rushed into my house and sat there on a chair,
without being asked to do so. I couldn’t ask them to leave. I had
to hear what they came to say. What was my initial thought?
“What is this dirty lady doing here when I’m about to go for my
evening walk? Why is she disturbing me?”
You know, my friends, in total repentance, being totally ashamed
of my thoughts, I’m openly declaring to you what happened that
That lady, a poor lady who lives in one of the sheds behind here,
began, “Sir, I want to tell you what has happened.”
“Yes, what happened - please let me know because the time is up. I
have to go for my evening walk.”
She immediately said, “I need five minutes time.”
“‘Yes, what happened?”
“Well, I have been to my native place, Nellore.”
“Good, you’re back. Fine,” I said, to dispose of her. (Laughter)
Immediately she said, “No sir, by the time I reached Nellore, I
had a severe heart attack. I could not get up. I could not walk.”
She was taken to the hospital. Nellore has experienced doctors and
they all said that she needed an operation.
“Yes, there is something wrong - a cardiac complaint. She should
be operated upon.” That is what they said.
And the woman sitting right there in front of me said loudly,
“Sir, I prayed to Bhagavan right there in Nellore: ‘Oh Baba, if
You are really God, if You’re satisfied with my services, if You
bless me with a total cure, I’ll serve You till my last breath.
Baba, if you help me, I’ll work in Prashanti Nilayam until my last
That’s what she said there in Nellore. Then she traveled all the
way back and came to Prashanti Nilayam. The next day she went to
the Super Speciality Hospital. She got herself a total check-up,
scanning and everything.
The doctor said, “Nothing is wrong with you. (Applause) Everything
What does this mean? It only means that I noticed in her that kind
of acceptance, that spirit of devotion, the unquestioning loyalty,
and the unwavering faith, that is really great.
I mention this in connection with judgment because: ‘All that
glitters is not gold.’ People might look cultured. People might
look civilised, posh and well dressed, with very high academic
qualifications, but stinking in their behaviour and in their
qualities. But here is a lady whom I thought was unkempt, and I
wanted to dispose of her immediately. When she said this had
happened, I fell at her feet in repentance.
Who is Superior, Who is Inferior?
“Judge not, lest ye be judged,” reads the Holy Bible.
Do not judge anybody. There are a number of people sitting in back
who have no chance to see Bhagavan up close. They return home
happily, blissfully, with all their wants satisfied, with all
their desires fulfilled, because they view Bhagavan from a
spiritual point of view.
But those who go by the physical form expect Swami to speak to
them and expect Him to call them for an interview. Who is
superior, and who is inferior? Please let me know.
In fact, one gentleman, an M. Tech student, asked me this morning,
“Sir, what should I do in order to ensure that Swami will speak to
I said, “That goal is foolish”.
Why? Because He talks to people for several reasons: There waits
the driver and He talks to him, “Take the car over to that side.”
Do you think the driver is Vyasa or Vasishta or Viswamitra?
(Laughter) Certainly not! Certainly not! I’m not going to accept
it. Also, you’ll find one or two cooks there inside. He always
talks to them: “Serve a little. Don’t serve. Stop serving. Useless
fellow, you’ve not done well.”
So, do you think that those cooks are the people at whose feet I
should fall? Not necessarily. Therefore, Swami’s external talk may
please you, but it is more pleasing when others watch it.
(Laughter) The little ego will be satisfied.
I continued talking to the M. Tech student, a gold medallist at
the post-graduate level, MSc mathematics, and told him, “We are
confused, therefore we are unhappy. Our goals are worldly, while
our path is spiritual. We have worldly goals like gaining a big
name, fame, prestige, influence, and all kinds of benefits -
business benefits and profits. All these goals are worldly. But
the path is spiritual -- coming to Prashanti Nilayam, sitting in
the front row, praying and going around Ganesha and all that. That
is a spiritual path no doubt, but our goals are worldly.
Therefore, we are confused.”
What should be our spiritual goal? The spiritual path is OK, but
the spiritual goal is to go beyond want and desire. What are our
desires? We should desire to be desireless. The only desire is to
be desireless. That should be the spiritual goal. So for a
spiritual goal, the spiritual path is acceptable and justifiable.
I cannot take a ship and expect to fly in the air. I cannot expect
to ride on my bicycle on the surface of water. So, you need a boat
in the medium of water and an airplane to fly across the sky.
Similarly, for the worldly path, for worldly goals, there is one
route. For the spiritual path and spiritual growth, there is
another. But since we get confused, we’re depressed and very much
frustrated at times, and full of doubts. Therefore, ‘Judge not,
lest ye be judged.’ Let us not judge anybody.
I also know a time when Swami suddenly slowed down His car on the
way to Kodaikanal. When the car was speeding up, suddenly He
slowed down His car. I thought something was wrong with the driver
or something was wrong with the car. Nothing was wrong with
either. Everything was wrong with me. (Laughter) The reason He
stopped the car was to get out and talk to a beggar who was
sitting by the roadside. He gave her some money and a blanket, and
then got back into the car again.
“Judge not, lest ye be judged.” I have no business to judge. Let
us not estimate. Let us not assess. Let us not calculate. Let us
not evaluate because God is beyond the mind. The mind has the
tendency to judge. The one who does not judge is really spiritual.
The one who judges is non-spiritual, irreligious, immoral. Let’s
not do that.
Long ago, about twenty-five years ago, there in the Poornachandra
Auditorium, I was seated there, and while Swami was speaking, the
audience started clapping. Yes, claps, repeated applause.
I told my friend, “What are they doing? We can’t hear clearly with
the clapping. Why do they clap like that? It is awful.”
The gentleman agreed with all that I said. Suddenly after ten
minutes, when Swami made a wonderful statement, I was the first
man to start clapping. (Laughter) I was the first man to do it.
See that! “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” It is easy to judge the
other man. But later, when you are in his shoes, you may be much
worse than the person you pointed out.
Therefore Bhagavan says, “Seek out your own faults and others’
merits, so that you never think of anything that is negative in
others. Judgment is one of the weaknesses of the mind.”
The Mind Always Doubts
Next point, we must ‘master the mind’ because the mind always
One person says, “This is the ring Bhagavan gave me. What sort of
ring did He give to you?”
“Why are you bothered about the ring He gave me? Keep quiet!”
He’s bothered because he wonders whether the ring given to me is
costlier than the ring given to him. (Laughter)
And he wants to know, “Sir, what is the quality of the stones?”
You are the stone -- inert, dull, passive and worn out. May God
help me to keep away from you!
This is not the right thing. The mind that doubts is the worst
The Githa clearly states, “The one who doubts shall perish.” So,
doubts arise from the mind. Therefore, ‘master the mind’.
So my friends, when Bhagavan says, “Master the mind”, He means
that we need to master it for our own satisfaction. We need to
master it for positive thinking. We need to master it for our own
contentment. We need to master it to be free from doubts. We need
to master it to develop a spirit of surrender. Therefore, master
Be A Mastermind
Then comes the second part of the sentence: “Be a mastermind.”
Once you master the mind, you can be a mastermind. ‘Mastermind’
means that the mind is no longer a slave. ‘Mastermind’ means a
mind that is directed along the right path.
Bhagavan says, “Same lock, same key. If you turn it to one side,
the lock opens. When you turn it to the other side, it closes.
Same lock, same key – just a difference in the turning.”
A mastermind turns toward God, so one opens to liberation. On the
other hand, a mind that is not mastered, which is not disciplined,
what will happen? It will turn toward the world. So when the mind
turns to the world, it gets locked or in bondage. On the one hand,
it opens to liberation. On the other hand, it closes and there is
bondage. It is the same mind. So, a mastermind will take us toward
liberation, nirvana or moksha. That is the mastermind.
The mastermind has total control, a ceiling on desires. Bhagavan
has given an example. If an elephant can be taught to sit on a
small stool and if a snake can dance to your tune, why not the
A man can control an elephant, but man has become much worse that
an ant. A man controls a mighty elephant, but is not able to
control himself. But, a mastermind will have total control. A
mastermind is ready to apply the breaks at any time, so the mind
won’t become wayward. So, master the mind and be a mastermind.
A Mastermind is Always Compassionate
A mastermind is always compassionate. A mastermind is
compassionate. Instead of being judgmental, he is compassionate.
Here’s a simple example: Somebody told Bhagavan, talking about
someone, “Swami, he is like this, he is like that.”
Because people don’t have anything to say, they speak about
another person. Do you know what Baba said?
“Stop it. It is fine if they are happy. It is fine if they are
successful. Why do you talk like that? Stop it. Stop it. Next
He said that. He will not let you go in that particular direction.
That is the mastermind. The mind that melts immediately when
watching the misery of others is the mastermind. The mastermind is
the one who clearly knows the spiritual goal, purpose and
What IS THE ‘No-Mind’ State?
The mastermind is the mind that disappears, which is the final
state. So, first you have the mind; then, the positive mind and
the negative mind; and finally, the third and final stage is ‘no
mind’. That is the mastermind stage, meaning ‘no mind’.
What is this ‘no mind state’? If you go and tell Swami, “Swami,
these things are done”, He will credit you.
“You have done that; you have done that.”
Poor fellows, we think that it is true. Certainly not! Things
happen not because of us, but in spite of us. Most of the
programs, the Sai activities, are successful because of Bhagavan.
I can tell you recently a prestigious body visited the university
-- the National Assessment and Accreditation Committee -- the
highest academic body of the University Grants Commission. The
group visited Sathya Sai University, evaluated, decided, and made
the University #1 in this country! (Applause) Sathya Sai
University is #1 in this country!
How did this come about? It is not because of the teachers or
students. If anyone thinks so, well, woe unto us. It is because we
have amongst us the Hero of heroes, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba –
we, being the zeros! (Applause) So, the whole, full credit should
go to Bhagavan Baba, not to anyone else.
Not only that. The NAAC Committee -- the National Assessment
Accreditation Committee -- also said, “At a time when the whole
world is thinking of introducing value-based education, it is only
Sri Sathya Sai University that has actually already implemented it
since a long time. So, it is a model university for the whole
Not only that. They also recommended that Sathya Sai University
start a national staffed college, a national staffed
administration centre to train teachers from all over the country
in the ways and means of implementing an integrated system of
education or value-based education. The University is going start
this program in June. This is not an ordinary achievement.
How is it possible? It is due to a Mastermind - Mastermind
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. The mastermind is universal. The
mastermind is cosmic. The mastermind is infinite. But the mind
that is not mastered, the mind that is not disciplined, is
selfish. It is individualistic, it is finite, it is determinate,
and it is limited; whereas, our Mastermind, Bhagavan, is not like
We also know that when a certain person was in service at the
height of his career, Bhagavan started giving him interviews. He
was very happy. When his retirement was very close, Bhagavan said
that He would make the fellow say, “Swami, I want to settle here.”
Swami said, “This is the mastermind. I have been grooming him for
the past two to three years, so you will find him here in future.
His plan stretched far ahead of time. How He thinks, how He plans,
how He decides that a person should be here, at what point of time
-- that is the Mastermind. A mastermind is spiritual. A mastermind
is Divine. A mastermind has the Divine Master Plan, which is
selfless, universal, cosmic, based on Love for the welfare of
mankind -- nothing but Love. These are the points that I want to
draw your attention to about this topic: “Master the Mind, Be a
Memory is Not Intelligence
We consider that a mastermind is the one that has the capacity to
memorize. No, no! Memory is not intelligence. Memory is the act of
a computer. You don’t need to have mind at all. Computers do
better than you and me, too. (Laughter) So, memory is not
If I say, “Sir, I have full faith and confidence in my mind
because I recall what happened fifteen years ago,” you will think,
“Please kindly go back in history and stay there. I would be so
grateful to you.” (Laughter)
Those people who go back to history, to the yesteryears, finish
there. They are very close to the grave.
So, memory is not intelligence. Intelligence is a response to
stimuli. Intelligence is an expression like compassion, kindness,
sacrifice, understanding and clarity. That is intelligence; it is
not simply memory. So a mastermind is full of intelligence and not
simply memory, like a computer.
The President Abdul Kalam
I can also tell you that this mastermind disappears at a time when
it should. I can say this simply. You find many, many people
coming here to Bhagavan - many great scholars. But they’ll never
be egoistic. They forget their positions.
Let me tell you an open secret that Bhagavan said about me on the
veranda. He said that I can’t keep a secret. I tell everybody. So,
only tell me things that can be shared or else do not tell me,
because I have the weakness of sharing with everybody. If you say,
“It’s confidential”, that will be made public first. (Laughter) I
do this because I feel that the joyful thing is to spread the
message of Bhagavan, even at my own cost - it doesn’t matter.
Bhagavan said this, “The President of this country, Abdul Kalam,
wrote a letter.”
“What did he write?”
He wrote, “Swami, don’t put a chair there on the veranda for me. I
want to sit on the ground along with the devotees because I am
coming there in the capacity of a devotee, not as the President of
That’s what he said. Can you believe it? That is what is called
‘no mind’ (no ego) state. That is the state of a mastermind. That
is what is called annihilation of the mind (or ego). That is what
we call withdrawal of the mind (or ego). That is what we call an
egoless state. The mind is just ego.
Bhagavan also told us, as we have witnessed, that the President of
this country, after the Convocation at nine o’clock in the
evening, went around Prashanti Nilayam, going around to the sheds
and all that, for an evening walk. The police could not keep pace
with him. He went on saying, “Sai Ram, Sai Ram”, to everyone there
in the sheds. (Laughter)
And when he came there inside the Sai Kulwant Hall, he said to
police, “Please go away. Let me see the hall - how beautiful it
is.” (Laughter) Yes, this is the no-mind (no ego) state. If he
feels, “I am the President”, then he’d want ABC network on that
side and the police this side.
So, to forget what you are, to forget your qualifications, to
forget your status, to forget your influence, to feel that you are
nothing is ‘no mind’ (no ego) state. As long as you feel that you
are something, you may become something incorrigible - impossible
to repair. So, the total egolessness that ‘I am nothing in front
of God’ is the ‘no mind’ (no ego) state.
Not only that. The President of India wrote another letter of
thanks after his return to Delhi. He told Bhagavan, “It is only in
Prashanti Nilayam that I experienced the highest peace of mind.
Only there - nowhere else.” (Applause)
See that? And you must also know of an army general who retired
recently, Padmanaban - Army General #1 of the Indian Army. He came
to see Bhagavan recently and he said, “Swami, I will be retiring
very soon. I will be very grateful to You if You give me any
simple job in Prashanti Nilayam. I’m prepared to do it.”
Egolessness is Mastermind
This is the mastermind -- to feel, ‘I am nobody’ – egolessness. We
see Swami helping a sick person to walk to the dais. We see Him
assisting a person, holding his hand and directing him into the
interview room -- God Himself.
God is not a position; God is not a status. God is a quality of
life. God is a quality. God is not a commodity. God is not a
person. When we think God is a person, we want to influence, to
manage Him. When we think God is an object and a commodity, we
want to possess Him. You cannot possess, you cannot acquire, you
cannot manage, you cannot manipulate, you cannot own and you
cannot disown God because you are God -- that is it.
Therefore, God is not a goal. God is never a goal. God is a
pilgrimage. God is a journey. God is a journey, but not a goal
because you are God, as Bhagavan has repeatedly told us.
My friends, you can extend your study, collect as many points as
possible on this subject, “Master the Mind, Be a Mastermind.”
Prayer to Bhagavan
Before I answer the questions that I have received, I want to
conclude this portion of today’s talk by offering a prayer to
Bhagavan to help us to master our minds. We may not know what
havoc our mind is creating. We may not know how bad we have become
because of our identification with the mind. We do not know how
egoistic we have become, how restless, how frustrated we are,
because of the mind.
Bhagavan, please help us to know the stumbling blocks -- that
‘iron curtain’ of the mind. Please, help us to break it, to cut it
off, so that we’ll be totally humble, completely egoless, all
loving, all surrendering unto Your Lotus Feet. Sai Ram.
Here are a few questions. Of course, there are so many, many
letters of appreciation. Appreciation encourages me to continue
with the job more carefully, (Laughter) in a more responsible way
than before. Yes, I take it that way.
How Should Youngsters Behave?
One question is this: “How should youngsters behave, particularly
when they are overwhelmed by images and news? How should they
Bhagavan says, “There isn’t anything on how youngsters should
behave.” But, here is Bhagavan’s general guidance on this matter:
Start early, drive slowly, reach safely.
So, when a youngster starts his life, directed along the spiritual
path at an early age, he’ll have the correct perspective, and know
the right way of handling life and its situations. That is why Bal
Vikas was introduced.
How To Deal with Reincarnation?
The next question: “How do we deal with rebirth or reincarnation?
How does it reconcile with Adwaitha? What exactly is rebirth, if
only God exists?”
How do we deal with rebirth? We cannot deal with it because it is
not in our hands. None of us submitted an application to God
before our birth to be born as a human being. Really, had
application forms been given to us before our birth, we would
probably have filled in volumes of columns at least, to make sure
we’d be born as a millionaire. (Laughter)
“Oh God, at least see that I’m full of joy, fun and frolic
forever. (Laughter) See that I won’t die next time.” (Laughter)
These would have been our expressions. So there is no question of
dealing with rebirth because it is not in our hands. But, how do
we reconcile it with Adwaitha? Adwaitha means, as you know,
non-dualism -- only One exists, not two. As Baba says:
Ekam Eva Advithiyam Brahma.
Ekam Eva means ‘only one, not two’. So, how do we reconcile this
My friends, as long as I feel that I am separate from God, I have
to be born again and again. Once I understand and experience that
God and I are one, there’s no rebirth. So birth and rebirth are
due to separateness or due to the feeling of a separate identity,
due to one’s identification with the body, mind and intellect.
Because of this separation from the Divine entity, one has to be
born again and again. Once you experience and deeply identify with
Divinity, it cuts short the chain of birth and death.
How D o You View Depression?
The next question is: “How do you view depression in a civilised
Civilisation necessarily makes you depressed (Laughter) because
civilisation is nothing but the expression of the outer
personality, comforts and conveniences, electronic gadgets, and so
on. If I have the latest car, I’m sophisticated. If I have an
air-conditioned home, well, I’m really civilised. Civilisation has
no limits – the sky is the limit. In the name of civilisation, we
have too many desires -- desires are multiplied and multiplied.
There’s no end at all. So, civilisation will certainly take you to
What we need is culture. Culture is based on values. Culture gives
you satisfaction. Culture helps you to develop a balanced state of
mind, whereas civilisation takes you to confusion. It is like a
fire -- whatever you put into it, the fire consumes. So,
civilisation goes on consuming your energy, sapping your time,
leaving no time to rest, stand and stare. Thus, in a civilised
society, we should learn how to be cultured. Keep civilisation
‘number two’ and culture at the top of our priorities. Then
there’ll be no depression.
Shall We Follow One Who Clams to Be Jesus?
Next question: “There are many people who claim that they are the
reincarnation of Jesus.” (Laughter) “Shall we follow him?”
If anyone calls himself the reincarnation of Jesus, before you
decide to follow him, let the psychiatrist decide. (Laughter).
There are many people who make claims like that. Let’s not go by
Please Clarify Accelerating Karma
The next question: “We have very little time to work in the
organisation. Baba, with all His compassion, is accelerating
everybody’s karma. Please clarify.”
Acceleration of karma is not limited to organisational works.
Please, be very clear -- our work in the organisation is not in
any way different from our office work. It is the spirit that
counts, not the work that matters. So long as I think I have done
the work, whether it is organisational work or office work or
domestic work or menial work, or whatever work I do - if I do it
with a sense of ‘I-ness’, that is ridiculous. That is undesirable.
Without this ‘I-ness’, whatever you do -- whether office or
personal work anywhere -- if it is done with the feeling, “Baba,
You are the doer; I’m only an instrument in Your hands,” well,
that will certainly accelerate everybody’s karma, leading to total
annihilation, freeing you from bondage. So, this ‘I-ness’, the
spirit, is more important, not necessarily whether it is
organisational work or office work.
Does Spiritual Evolution Continue After Death?
And then, “Does spiritual evolution continue after death?
I have not met anybody who has returned after death, telling me,
“I have evolved.” (Laughter) No, I have not come across anybody
But the scriptures clearly say this: “There’s no death at all.”
Understanding death will help you to understand that there is no
death. That is the reason why we have to understand what death is
-- in order to be deathless. So, there’s no death. There can only
be death if there is birth; but there’s no birth either. No birth
and no death is the reality -- even though it is so difficult to
believe -- because the soul or spirit is eternal, immortal. Swami
Sunwantu Viswe Amrutasya
The real Divinity in you is beyond birth and death.
The so-called birth is only the appearance of the body, and the
so-called death is only the disappearance of the body. To quote
Bhagavan here: “You move from one room to another room. That does
not mean that you are already dead in the next room and you are
going to be born again in this adjoining room. Certainly not! You
are moving from one room to another. The whole thing belongs to
In a similar way, birth and death are only a change of dress. This
is why, when He was on the cross, Jesus Christ told His mother
Mary, “Death is the dress of life.” That’s what I can say.
And what is spiritual evolution? Spiritual evolution is the
feeling that a drop belongs to the ocean. The drop is not
separate. The drop and the ocean are one and the same. The spark
and the fire are one and the same. The foam, the wave and the
water are all one and the same. The clay and the pot are one and
the same. The gold and the jewels are one and the same. This kind
of experience is a culmination in the evolution of this organic
Well, that brings us to the end of the questions submitted to me.
I thank you very much for having been here with me this morning
and for listening to the talk with rapt attention. May Bhagavan be
with you forever and ever more!
(Anil Kumar closed his satsang by leading the bhajan, ‘Kshirabdhi
Thank you very much!
Om Asato Maa Sad Gamaya
Tamaso Maa Jyotir Gamaya
Mrtyormaa Amrtam Gamaya
Om Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji Ki Jai!
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji Ki Jai!
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji Ki Jai!