Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at
August 17, 2003
The Sunday Talk Given by Anil Kumar
August 17th, 2003
OM… OM… OM…
With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of Bhagavan,
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
I’m glad to be with you again this morning. We have two days to go
before the celebration of the birthday of Krishna…two days to go.
All over the world, people hear the name of Krishna. There are
many centres of Krishna consciousness, spread all over the world.
I would like to share with you a few thoughts on Krishna. It is
not possible, I can even say it is impossible, to do justice here
within an hour. But yet, glimpses of His Divinity, a bird’s eye
view on the life and mission of Krishna, will give us the spirit
to read about Him, to meditate on Him, and to know more and more
about Him, experience Him, and finally reach Him. It is in this
context, I want to say a few words on this occasion.
‘KRISHNA’ MEANS ‘THE POWER TO ATTRACT’
There are three meanings of the word ‘Krishna’. The first meaning
is ‘the One who attracts’. The whole world is attracted towards
this place. There are many people who have heard and who have seen
Swami in Krishna’s form. I have on my left side a person known to
me for thirty years. I know his mother had a vision of Bhagavan
appearing in the form of Krishna. Many people have had darshan of
Krishna in the Lord, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
Today Bhagavan has the power of attraction. He is like a magnet,
with its magnetic effect, drawing all the iron filings towards it.
This attraction is the true justification for the meaning of the
word ‘Krishna’: drawing the whole crowd, all over the world. The
first meaning of the word ‘Krishna’ is ‘the power of attraction’.
KRISHNA PLOUGHS THE LAND OF OUR HEART
The second meaning of the word ‘Krishna’ is a farmer,
agriculturist or peasant, who tills the land, ploughs the land,
removes the weeds, sows the seeds, waters and reaps the crop in
the harvest season.
Here Lord Krishna acts as a peasant or as a farmer in the
individual lives of everybody. He is a farmer and a reformer in
the sense that He ‘ploughs’ the ‘land’ of our heart. Our heart is
the field. Our heart is the land, which is ploughed by Lord
Krishna. Then He sows the seeds of Love for Him, so that the tree
bears the fruit of bliss later.
In that way, the ‘Krishna’ word, the ‘Krishna’ term, means a
KRISHNA IS ONE WHO IS ALWAYS JOYFUL
The ‘Krishna’ word has a third meaning: the one who is always
joyful, the one who is always blissful.
What a justification, what a wonderful proof of the word
‘Krishna’, is in the life of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba! You
will never find Him serious. He always has a smile. Physically, He
may be indisposed. Physically, there is something wrong, you feel.
But yet, He is always in a state of bliss. He always smiles.
No matter whether the situation is a tragedy or whether it is a
comedy, the tragedy and the comedy do not matter. They do not
matter to Him because He goes beyond the good and bad, the
auspicious and inauspicious. He leads a transcendental life -- a
life beyond dualism.
How true it is! Lord Krishna went to sing in the battlefield, and
He also went to sing along the banks of the Yamuna with the
BABA IS BLISS, BLISS IS BABA
The place and the time do not matter. Life is a song. If you ask
Krishna, “What is Your life?” Krishna will say, “My life is a
song, My life is a melody, My life is a celebration.” If you look
to Swami, Swami will always say, “God is Bliss, Bliss is God. Baba
is Bliss, Bliss is Baba.”
In trying to pray to Him, in trying to have His darshan time and
again, there may come a moment when we rise to that standard.
HAVE THIRST FOR GOD
There is one word in Sanskrit that I would like to share with you:
a two-syllable word - thrushna. Thrushna means ‘thirst’. You
should have thirst for Krishna. If you have the thirst, thrushna,
for Krishna, that thirst will be quenched.
We have a thirst for worldly possessions, for worldly
acquisitions, but we have no thirst for God. That’s the reason why
we continue to be thirsty. We remain thirsty. Once we decide to
quench that thirst once and for all, we can develop a thirst for
With this note on the three-dimensional meanings and
interpretations of the word ‘Krishna’, I would like to draw your
attention to some more details.
KRISHNA BELONGS TO THE PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE
Krishna is a character of the past. Most people know that He
belongs to the Dwapara Yuga - not of today, but to that age of
thousands and thousands of years ago. Naturally, Krishna is a
character of the past. Naturally we have to appreciate Krishna’s
importance by giving a historical perspective. Krishna is
important for history. So then, why should we read about Him? Why
should we sing His glory?
My friends, Incarnation has nothing to do with history, because
this Incarnation, this Divinity, is a mystery; it is not history.
It is a mystery, not history, because in the past, in the present,
and in the future, we need Him. In the past, present and future,
we look to Him.
Therefore, Krishna is of the future, the unknown future, the
future eternal. And we are mistaken if we see the Incarnation as
an event of the past, a celebration of the past, merely a
commemorative jubilation, merely an event to be recollected.
Certainly not. It is a celebration of every moment.
KRISHNA MUST BE BORN IN OUR MINDS AND LIVE IN OUR HEARTS
The birthplace of Krishna is known as Vrepalle. Where is Vrepalle?
Where shall I find it? Look for it on a map. We know that in
towns, the major cities in the USA, wherever people go, they use a
map. “Go to the right; go to the left; 204, 305, left, right, over
there.” I see. Good. So, let us consult the map as to where
Vrepalle might be. After all, geographically it may be a location.
Vrepalle is the mind of man where Krishna is to be born. Krishna
is to be born in our mind, not in a geographical location.
The story of Krishna tells us that He moved around for a long time
along the shores in the land of Brindavan. Where is Brindavan? Is
it Whitefield in Bangalore? Yes, we have visited Brindavan
sometimes. No, not at all. Brindavan is in our hearts. So,
Vrepalle, the birthplace, is the mind. Brindavan is the human
DWARAKA IS A STATE OF EQUANIMITY
And we hear of Krishna, settling there in Dwaraka, as the king.
What is Dwaraka, where He settles as the Lord Supreme? What is
Dwaraka? Dwaraka is that stage of experience of non-duality, of
non-dualism, that stage of equanimity, that stage of balanced
state, that stage where we are equanimous. That is Dwaraka.
When I am able to take both pleasure and pain, when I am able to
take profit and loss, victory and defeat, with equanimity, that is
Dwaraka, where Krishna reigns as king.
MATHURA IS SWEETNESS ITSELF
We also think of Lord Krishna in Mathura as an emperor. What is
Mathura? Mathura -- the very word means ‘sweetness’. What is sweet
in this world?
You eat a sweet like a doughnut or pie, available in the western
canteen, or any of the sweets available in the North Indian
canteen, for which it is famous (though, for your information, I
don’t receive any commission) (Laughter). The North Indian canteen
is known for its sweets, yes. Those from the North eat plenty of
Mathura…So, let me go to the canteen and buy a sweet? No. The
sweet that we eat there may not continue to be sweet after eating
two or three. I eat one sweet now. I want to eat one more. Yes, I
eat it. I feel like eating one more. Yes, I eat it. Later, I will
say, “No more!” though it is still sweet. (Laughter) So, the sweet
that you and I eat will not continue to be sweet forever and ever,
whereas God’s Name, Mathura, is sweet. Madhurya is sweetness.
This sweetness lays in the holy, matchless, glorified Name of God.
You can repeat it any number of times. You can sing it any number
of times, from womb to the tomb, in every breath, and yet it
continues to be sweet -- sweeter and sweeter, sweeter and sweeter.
That’s why it is said:
Mathuraadhipathe Akhilam Madhuram,
“Your smile is sweetness.”
SHARING THE SWEETNESS OF THE LORD
We find some people all smiles, talking to their friends: “Look
here, Baba smiled at me!”
When He smiled at you, why do you smile at me? Why? Why do you
tell me? Because the smile of Baba…yes…is so capturing, so
dynamic, so ecstatic that it leaves an indelible, permanent
impression on your mind, and you want to share that with
everybody. Why do I say Baba smiled at me? Not to advertise.
After all, my heart is a simple glass. When this simple glass is
filled with more and more water, the water spills out. The glass
of my heart is full of ananda, bliss. It starts spilling out.
Therefore, I feel like sharing it with you.
My friends, people talk of Swami. Why? Because the cup of the
human heart is so small, it cannot contain all the syrup, all the
amrita, all the nectar within its limited space. So it starts
spilling out to what is called satsang or good company, or to the
When I share, I have no claim on that. Sharing without a claim is
a study circle. Sharing with a claim is ego. I don’t share with a
claim. I am not egoistic. I share with the spirit of joy. I want
you to place yourself in my position and enjoy. There life is real
joy. That’s what it is.
THE BIRTH OF INCARNATIONS
WILL BE CELEBRATED BY HUMANITY FOREVER
Therefore my friends, Krishna is the Lord of the future. We should
also know one important point. Over the years, not only in coming
centuries but over the eons, Krishna will be remembered and
Krishna will be praised. Also Christ and His birth will be
celebrated as long as humanity survives.
Any Incarnation, any prophet, will never be forgotten by humanity.
Their birth is a matter of celebration. That’s the reason why we
greet each other with “Happy Birthday!” on the birthday of
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. The birthday of Bhagavan Sri Sathya
Sai Baba is a birthday for everybody. For everybody! It is not
merely limited to that physical frame.
INCARNATIONS ARE BORN AHEAD OF THEIR TIMES
I can also say that every Incarnation is born ahead of time. Since
we have no head, we are behind the time (Laughter). We are born
behind the time. That’s the reason why we are outdated and
archaic, whereas Incarnations are born ahead of time. That’s the
reason why their message is fragrant. Their message is vibrant.
Their message is electrifying. Their message is energizing. Their
message is catalytic, vital.
Therefore, the vitality, the dynamism of the call of an
Incarnation, lies in the fact that the Incarnation is born well
ahead of the time. So, you can never say Krishna was born in the
past. So-and-so was born -- wrong. The rules and the grammar of
the past are not applicable in the life and the mission of any
Incarnation. It is present, continuous, and future -- no past
tense. Teachers of English, please forgive me if I am wrong in any
TURN YOUR LIFE INTO HIS MESSAGE
Krishna’s life is a beautiful combination. My friends, Bhagavan
Baba said once, "If you think, 'Oh Swami! You could do it because
You are God! I cannot do it as I am human,' there’s no point in
being here." There’s no point in going through His literature.
There’s no point in listening to His discourses.
“Baba! You could do it. You are full of Bliss. You are One of
Sacrifice.” While so praising Him, I would like in turn to be
blissful and turn my life into His message. We have to turn our
life into His message. This is the true meaning of worship.
TRUE WORSHIP IS EMULATION OF THE GOD YOU ADORE
Worship is often misunderstood. Offering a flower, offering a
garland, offering a coconut - anybody can do that who has some
coins in their pocket. God is not so cheap. Worship is not that
simple. Worship is not that brief. After all, the priest may be
offering worship, looking forward to some tips, that’s all.
True worship is emulation: emulation of the qualities of the
person whom you worship, whom you adore, whose glory you sing. If
you emulate, if you copy those qualities, that is what you call
true worship or archana. We emulate the example of the
Krishna is the personification of Love. Bhagavan Baba is Love. I
have got to be loving. If I am not loving, if I don't have any
trace of love, yet say I worship Baba, this is nothing but
hypocrisy. It is ridiculous. I worship Baba. Baba is One of
Sacrifice. If I am miserly and greedy, I cannot call myself His
So my friends, Krishnaashtami, the adoration of Krishna, the
praise of Krishna, actually means absorbing the qualities of the
life of the Lord, assimilating the message of Krishna, copying His
life, following His footsteps. Therein lies the true celebration
of Krishna's life.
BHAGAVAN IS BEYOND PLEASURE AND DISPLEASURE
As I said earlier, a laughing humanity, a joyful humanity will
always look towards Lord Krishna. Krishna, the one with the
mischievous smile, is always worshipped by a laughing humanity and
a joyful humanity. I am reminded of what happened recently.
One boy said, "Swami, my grandmother died!"
Swami said, "Chala Santhosham", which means, “Very good.”
"Swami, I fractured my hand!"
"Very nice." (Laughter)
"Swami, my son left home!"
"Nice thing he did." (Laughter)
There is nothing such as ‘not nice’ in His lifestyle. There is
nothing like ‘no’ in His life dictionary. The life dictionary of
God is full of ‘yes, yes, yes’ only.
Sri Sathya Sai, Sri Sathya Sai. ‘S’, ‘S’ and ‘S’: Sri Sathya Sai.
Triple ‘yes’, multiple ‘yes’, and infinite ‘yes’! There is nothing
like ‘no’ in His life dictionary. Therefore, whatever we say, He
"Bhagavan, I have come here to see You."
“When did you come?”
“But my brother did not come.”
"Very good." (Laughter)
It is not as if you are pleasing Him in one way and displeasing
Him in another way. He is beyond pleasure and displeasure. I can
please you by offering you a cup of coffee. I can displease you by
ignoring you. If I don’t recognize you, if I ignore you, you feel
so badly about it. Is it not true? It is. But you can never
displease God. Impossible!
I very well remember a devotee visiting this place after a gap of
twenty years. He came and sat there.
Our good Lord comes to him and says, “How are you? And how are
your sons? I saw them when they were kids. One must be an engineer
by this time, another a bank manager.” He talks to him of the
present position of his two sons, whom He met when they were kids.
So, He doesn’t complain, “Why you have not come here in the past
20 years? Explain…or you will be terminated without notice!
(Laughter). Or you will be served with a month’s notice to quit
There are no service conditions in the life of the Divine. There
are no stipulations. There are no suspensions. There are no
dismissals. There are no promotions. There are no reversals. You
are where you are.
You are where you are – in your reality. Where are you? In the
Divine. The Divine is in you and you are in the Divine. And that
is my position and your position. There is no question of
displacement. There is no question of misplacement. There is no
question of replacement. There is only one placement - in the
ALWAYS BE BLISSFUL
Therefore, Bhagavan is always joyful. Bhagavan is always blissful.
He wants us to be blissful. When you and I put on a long face, He
will ask, “What happened to you? Why the ‘castor oil face’? What
happened to you?”
In fact, Swami Vivekananda said, “A long face, a serious face,
deserves to go to a hospital and not to a place of worship.”
A smiling face, a joyful face, a life of bliss has a place in a
temple, in a synagogue, or in a church. A sorrowful face, a
miserable face, a complaining face, a life full of grudges,
misgivings, misunderstandings and regrets has no place in a temple
of worship. He can just cry on a railway platform all alone.
So, the message of Lord Krishna is that we have got to be
blissful, joyful. So that also is the message of Bhagavan Sri
Sathya Sai Baba.
THE LORD OF COMPASSION AND LOVE HAS COURAGE TO FIGHT
In the life of Krishna, we find a beautiful combination: a
combination of compassion and Love on one hand, and the courage to
fight on the other. Krishna is all courage to fight violence on
one hand, and all compassion on the other hand. He’s a
combination, a blend of polarities or opposites.
They are actually paradoxical. It is the irony of life -- how
positive and negative, juxtaposed, go together. Yes, it happened
in the life of Krishna. He is ready to fight, though He is full of
compassion and Love.
What is the message to all of us? We should have compassion and
Love towards fellow men -- Love towards God and compassion towards
fellow men. Compassion is the expression of Love.
I cannot say, “I have all Love, but I don’t look at you.” You must
be blind! Or, “I have all Love, but I am not ready to share.” Then
you are a politician! (Laughter)
So, Love expresses itself by way of sacrifice. And that’s what we
call compassion. But we have forgotten compassion a long time ago.
Instead we think of passion, not compassion.
“Where was this shirt made?”
“It is the latest fashion!” Oh, no compassion! (Laughter)
So, the Lord of compassion and Love has courage to fight. What
does it mean? Let us fight against hatred. Let us fight against
desire. Let us fight against possessiveness. Let us fight against
attachment on one side with all courage.
GOD IS NOBODY BECAUSE HE IS IN EVERYONE
It is not easy to fight against the ego. It is not so easy. If I
fight with my ego, I lose my individuality. I lose my identity. I
lose my brand. I lose my specialty. I lose my uniqueness. Nobody
will say “Sai Ram” to me.
When I lose my ego, I am nobody. With my ego, I am somebody. When
I am somebody, everybody will greet me. When I am nobody, no one
looks at me. To be nobody is more difficult than to be somebody.
I know Bhagavan Baba. Seeing a poor person, He just opened His zip
bag, and gave 500 rupees. This was for a poor man, carrying
firewood on his head, who had never seen Sathya Sai Baba at any
time, and who had never heard His Name till then. Nor did Sathya
Sai ever personally let him know (about Him), because Sathya Sai
Baba wanted to remain anonymous. He doesn’t want to be known.
Straightaway, a devotee went to that old man, that illiterate,
rustic, uncivilised person, a poor man. The devotee told him again
and again, “Do namaskaar (the palms of the hands coming together
in a gesture of reverence) to Him, because He is God!”
Baba told the devotee to leave him alone and let him go. “Come on,
come on! Let him go.”
God is nobody. God is nobody because He is in everyone.
If you are somebody, you can be at some place with some body. So,
you are ‘somebody’. (Applause) But when God is in everyone, who is
God? God is everybody.
That’s the reason why the song said: “Everybody loves Sai, Sai
loves everybody” during the 55th or 60th Birthday. “Everybody
loves Sai, Sai loves everybody.”
EGOLESSNESS IS SPIRITUALITY
Therefore, on one hand, have these feelings of compassion towards
our fellow men and Love for God. And on the other hand, let us
have the courage to fight our own ego and lose our identity. Even
if no one looks at me, I should be very happy, because to become
somebody is nothing great.
Spirituality is defined this way: Egolessness is spirituality.
Egoistic life is irreligious, immoral and non-spiritual. Egoistic
life is non-spiritual. Therefore, Krishna, in the company of the
cowherd boys, dressed in the same way, playing with the other
boys, climbing on the trees, jumping, singing and dining with the
cowherd boys, is an example of being nobody.
ORDINARINESS IS DIVINITY
Bhagavan Baba, walking towards the primary school children, asked
them, “What did you eat? What did you have for breakfast?
(Laughter) How many idlis (small rice cakes) have you eaten? Two?
Three? Why not half-a-dozen?” (Laughter)
He asked a college student, “Did you have your bath?” That boy had
a bath three days ago. (Laughter)
“Arey, what sort of a bath did you have? Was it, after all, the
sprinkling of a few drops on your body? Can that be a bath?”
Yes, He becomes very ordinary. While talking to primary school
children, He is a primary school child. When He talks to a college
student, He is, verily, a college student. That is ordinariness.
Ordinariness is Divinity.
The sun is ordinary; the moon is ordinary; the stars are ordinary;
the ocean is ordinary; the valleys are ordinary; the forests are
ordinary; the flowers are ordinary. But man wants to be
extraordinary. What an extraordinary creature he is! (Applause)
EGOLESSNESS IS THE KEY TO EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION
There is nothing in being extraordinary. Some people start to say,
“I cannot communicate with everybody because I am at such a high
level.” But in fact, down in the depths of ignorance is he!
(Laughter) When you cannot communicate with everybody, we will
appreciate it if you remain silent. (Laughter)
Therefore, my friends, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and Lord
Krishna are perfect examples of effective communication --
effective communication because they remain anonymous. They have
no separateness. They don’t consider themselves exalted. They
don’t consider themselves superior, because they are in everyone.
If God is in you, and is not there in another person, then there
is something special in you. When He is in everyone, there is
nothing special about it. When there are so many sweets I can
take, I cannot say, “I want this sweet.” They are all laddus --
Mathuraadhipathe akhilam madhuram.
“He is all sweetness Himself.”
KRISHNA IS BEYOND INDULGENCE AND AVOIDANCE
Here is another thing I want to bring to your attention: Lord
Krishna is beyond the two aspects (of indulgence and avoidance).
A simple example: A fellow wants to be a bachelor, a celibate,
saying, “I don’t want to get married.”
Oh, great! You’re going to be a man of history, a man of the
century. (Laughter) You are doing no sacrifice. At least the life
of a woman is saved! (Laughter) (Applause)
Why are you afraid to get married? You are afraid to get married
because you have no confidence in yourself. And you think that by
getting married, you are getting into the area of indulgence. You
say, “I don’t want to get married” because you want to choose the
path of avoidance.
There are two parts here: indulgence, and avoidance. To both -- to
those who get married, to those who do not get married -- the
common thing is marriage. He wants to get into this - indulgence.
Another doesn’t want to get into that - avoidance. But to both of
them, marriage is the common factor. Am I not right?
“I don’t want to get married.” Oh!
“I want to get married.” OK.
Marriage is the common thing. But Divinity is not avoidance;
Divinity is not indulgence. Divinity is transcendence. Divinity is
transcendence, because avoidance or indulgence does not count at
all. They do not matter at all in the spiritual sense, as Krishna
was in the company of many women -- 16,000 of them! I don’t think
that anybody could name them in the least. And He has to His
credit 8 wives! But yet He is a celibate, a brahmachari.
KRISHNA IS A BRAHMACHARI
Krishna is a brahmachari, a celibate, Yogeeshwara, a yogi (an
ascetic who has mastered the senses and the mind) Himself.
Krishna’s life is the best example of being in company, but yet
remaining alone; being in the midst of the society, yet solitary;
being among relations, yet detached. That is Divinity. (Applause)
That is Divinity.
The present God, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, gives us a message
along this line. He doesn’t encourage everyone to be celibate. He
doesn’t encourage everybody to run away from their families. He
doesn’t call that, in any way, spiritual. Somebody just leaves his
or her wife or husband - just runs away. So, is this spiritual?
No. Leaving the wife or husband is quite easy. When we disagree,
we leave. That is it. That doesn’t mean it is spirituality, no.
So, giving up the wife, giving up the husband, leaving the
property, anybody can do it. But that is not spirituality. In the
midst of life, in the midst of family, in the midst of struggle,
in the midst of tension, in the midst of turmoil, if you rise
above the reality, if you rise above what is happening, that is
true spiritual sadhana, or spiritual life.
RISE ABOVE YOUR PROBLEMS
The Bhagavad Gita ("The Song of God" or “The Song Celestial” –
legendary Indian scripture) indicates only one person. The
Bhagavad Gita does not speak of just anybody, but concentrates
instead on the quintessence, the essence of Vedanta (Indian
Bhagavad Gita names one person, Janaka, King Janaka. He is a king,
but yet a man of spirituality. Janaka is married, but a man of
excellence. Janaka is an emperor, but a total renunciant. Janaka
has his family, but yet is detached.
A boat is in the water, but the water is not in the boat. The
lotus flower blooms and blossoms above the water, with its roots
in the mud, yet with the flower above the water. The water does
not get into the flower, nor does the mud stick to the petals of
the flower. The mud is not stuck to the petals of the flower. The
water does not drown the flower. But yet, the flower blooms above
the surface of the water.
That is the message of Lord Krishna. That is the message of
Bhagavan Baba. You should be above. You should not allow the
problem to get into you.
HOW TO BE FREE FROM TENSIONS
Somebody asked Swami how to be free from tensions. Though the
question is simple, it is everybody’s problem. A rich man is full
of tension because he has to think how to continue to be rich, and
richer. That is his problem, his tension. (Laughter)
A poor man also has tension because he has no money. How to
continue his life, how to eke out his living, how to win his
bread? That is his tension. Tension is the ‘LCM’, lowest common
denominator. It is common to both of them. (Laughter)
A sick man is full of tension because of his sickness. A healthy
man is also under tension because he may fall sick later.
An educated man is full of tension because he feels an
insufficiency or an inadequacy in the education that he has
acquired. “I have a Ph.D. I have a M.Sc. Biotechnology. All the
degrees I have, and I am very happy about that. But still, the
knowledge and the degrees I have do not give me full and total
satisfaction. Therefore, the inadequacy in my education is a cause
Then, an illiterate man is full of tension because he feels
inferior in front of an educated man.
So, everybody is full of tension. An officer is under tension
because he is accountable to superiors. If he is negligent, he
will be transferred. A subordinate is under tension because his
colleague may rule over him tomorrow. Tension is common to both.
So, when this question is put to Swami, “Swami, what shall I do to
get away from tension?” Baba said, “Forget everything, there and
Forget everything, there and then itself! The moment I am in my
office, that is the moment I am in the midst of my problems. The
moment I leave my office, I leave my problems there.
The problems of the office should not be brought home, to make the
housewife miserable. When I am a dunce, a misfit in the office, I
should not make my wife suffer at home. When I am at fault in my
office, I cannot punish my children at home.
Leave the problems there, in the office. The problems of the
family should not be taken to the office. If there is a serious,
heated discussion between husband and wife, the officer should not
then shout at his people because of the ‘brought forward’ from
‘Brought forward’ is when the last column in the paper will be the
first column in the next paper in the accounts department,
(Laughter) but not in our lives. ‘Brought forward’ is the nature
of accounts, budgeting, balance sheet, accountancy and finance.
But ‘brought forward’ has no place in spirituality.
So, "Leave it there, and then leave itself," says Bhagavan Sri
Sathya Sai Baba, to continue to be ever blissful. This is
WHAT FORM OF KRISHNA SHOULD WE WORSHIP?
We also should believe in another important aspect. How do we
worship Lord Krishna? Some worship Krishna as a child. Surdas (a
blind poet) always sings of the glory of Krishna as a child, the
child Krishna. Arjuna (a close friend and later relation of
Krishna) appreciated Krishna as a young Krishna, a youthful
Krishna. Meera (a female saint) appreciated Krishna smiling, a
But who is Krishna now? Can I say child Krishna is more beautiful,
with all the stories, with all the miracles, with all the fun,
frolic and humour? Krishna, playing with everybody, so enchanting,
so beautiful -- these are the stories of His childhood. Shall I
think of that?
Or, shall I think of youthful Krishna? That is, Krishna as a young
man, with all the courage, with all the valour, with all the
strength to fight and to win.
Or, shall I think of Krishna as the embodiment of wisdom, the
Preceptor, the Teacher of teachers, who disseminated the knowledge
of the Self in the form of “The Song Celestial”, the Bhagavad
My friends, the knowledge of Krishna is total -- the totality in
worship. I cannot say that I love the child Krishna, or I love the
young Krishna, or I love the wise Krishna. No, no. Krishna is all.
FAMILY DIGNITY IS VERY IMPORTANT
If you want to appreciate Baba, let us study His childhood. If you
want to appreciate Baba, let us study His youthful days. If you
want to appreciate Baba, let us see Him now.
Bhagavan has a message to convey in every step of His life, in
every step of His life. He doesn’t want everybody to know that He
comes from a poor family.
To go to school, He preferred to walk. He did not use transport,
because for transport one has to pay money. As He did not have
enough money, He preferred to walk. As He did not have an extra
set of clothes (having just one pair of shorts or trousers), He
washed His shirt first. Then, after it dried, He washed His
shorts. The message to learn here is that we people have no
business to damage the dignity and prestige of the family.
Family prestige is very important. The name of the family is very
important. It should not be talked about on the streets in a cheap
way by any Tom, Dick or Harry. The name and dignity of the family
are very important.
Not only that. The child Sai was invited by His teacher to come
and visit him because the teacher’s wife had made special pakoras
- hot fried stuff. (You’ll find it in the South Indian canteen in
the afternoon. Of course, I don’t know their menu. I’m guessing,
“Sathyam, we’ve got pakoras this afternoon. Why don’t you visit us
But Sathyam went silently, with hands together, and said, “Sir, I
am sorry. If I come and eat, how would my classmates feel? How can
you be partial to Me?”
LEARN FROM THE LIFE OF KRISHNA AND BABA
Student Sai has a message to convey. Child Sai has a lesson to
teach. Student Sai had a message to convey. And a youthful Sai
with all His strength, with the spirit of service, is well worth
emulation. And Sai, being the personification of wisdom, is the
One in whom we can get immersed, getting lost there. When we
listen to Him, we become lost. When we sing, we forget ourselves.
So, what is the life of Sai? The life of Sai is totality. The life
of Sai is holistic.
Krishna Karnamritha is the story of child Krishna; the Bhagavad
Gita is the skill of the adult Krishna; Gopi Krishna is the story
of Krishna in His youth. So then, who is Krishna? Gopi Krishna,
Gita Krishna and then child Krishna, Chinni Krishna, are all the
phases of Krishna consciousness only.
So, Krishna consciousness, Baba consciousness, Sathya awareness:
There is a lesson to learn in every stage of His life, in every
moment of His life. It is a totality, not a fragmentation.
THE CONVERSATION OF UDDHAVA AND THE GOPIKAS
Somebody said, “I was reading Bhagavan’s book, and Bhagavan speaks
of this story.”
So, your attention please: There was a great wise man by the name
of Uddhava. Well, Krishna's friends (the gopikas) were waiting for
His arrival, but Krishna didn’t have the time to visit. So, He
sent Uddhava to them, saying: “Convey My message that I will come
there some day.”
Uddhava went there and called all the women, the cowherd girls or
“Come on! Here is a message from Krishna. I want to communicate it
And those ladies said this: “Uddhava, you have seen Krishna in the
physical form. Uddhava, you are very near Krishna in the physical
plane. You talk to Him, you converse with Him, and you are in His
company. You are in the company of the song-full God. You are in
the company of God with all attributes, saguna. So, you are in the
company of God with attributes, saguna. You are in the company of
God with form, akara.
“But you want to teach us about formless, attributeless Divinity.
You run after the form, but you teach us formlessness. Why don’t
you run for an election? (Laughter) You run after God with
attributes, saguna, but then you speak to us of attributelessness,
nirguna. You have one standard for you, and a different standard
for us. We don’t want your message. Please go back."
A black flag demonstration: “Go back!”
That man Uddhava said, “What nonsense are you speaking? I have
come here with a message from Krishna.”
“Sorry, we have no time to hear you. We have no mind to hear you.”
“What! You have no mind?”
“Yes. We have no mind.”
“That mind is given to Krishna. So, we never mind.” (Laughter).
This has a deeper implication. When the gopikas said, "We have no
mind", it only meant the thoughtless state. It only meant the
withdrawal of the mind. It only meant the annihilation of the
mind. It only meant the stillness of the mind. The still water is
calm; whereas agitated, disturbed water is different from still
water. Similarly, when the gopikas said, "We have no mind", it
signifies the still water, or the equanimous mind.
Then Uddhava understood that he was an unwanted, unsolicited
ambassador, who was most unwelcome there. So he said, “All right.
You don’t want to hear me. But Krishna cared enough to write a
letter for you. Come on! Read it for yourselves."
One lady got up and said, “Sorry. We are from this village,
unlettered and illiterate. We don’t know how to read. Go back. We
don’t want letters either.”
Then Uddhava said, “What is this? Am I in the midst of
illiterates? Rural, rustic people? Is there not one or two who can
read and write?”
One lady got up and said, “I can read.”
“Come on! Then read it.”
“I am sorry. I won’t.”
“Because of the pangs of separation from Him, from Krishna: When
my tears start rolling, they may fall on the paper, and the
letters may get erased, so that they cannot be made out.
(Laughter) When the letters get erased, I can’t read, as the
sentences are gone.”
“Oh, I see. OK. Is there anyone else who can read? This lady is
highly emotional (Laughter), most imbalanced (Laughter). She keeps
two rivers in her eyes, ready to pour out water. Is there any
other girl who can read?”
One girl got up and said, “I can read. But I won’t read.”
“Oh, I see. What’s the problem with you?”
“Being separated from Krishna, my whole body is burning. My whole
body is burning with a high temperature. When I touch the paper,
it may be burnt up (Laughter). So I don’t want it.”
WORDS FAIL IN THE DEPTHS OF EXPERIENCE
This is a simple story with a lot of meaning, with depth in it.
Its message is that scholarship or book reading is useless. It
also means that discourses or talking to somebody with preferences
of their own, which are in the opposite direction to what they
say, is nothing but duplicity, hypocrisy, and a double standard in
life. It also conveys the true feelings of a devotee.
My friends, we often think that someone is a devotee if he can
quote freely from the Bhagavad Gita, or if he can talk eloquently
on the Bible, or if he can freely say all that is said in the
Quran, or if he can speak extempore, in a most impressive way. No.
Speech-making is a mechanical process.
God is an experience; God is not an expression.
So, when I am speaking like this, please understand me. I belong
to the category of people who have yet to experience. I have no
sense of shame in telling you so.
Just two days back, Baba said, “When you stand knee-deep in water,
you can talk freely. When you immerse yourself neck-deep, you can
still talk. When you are fully drowned, there is no more talk.”
Similarly, talk or words fail in the depth of the total existence,
in the state of bliss, in the state of ecstasy. Therefore, these
gopikas, these illiterate cowherd girls, speak of the depths of
experience. Where? Where silence is eloquence. Where silence is
eloquence! That is a wordless word. That is a speechless speech.
THE LOVE OF GOD IS IMMEASURABLE
Here is a simple example: You say, “I love my mother.” How much do
you love her? How many kilos? How many tons? Calculate it in terms
of money. How many dollars worth? Arey, what nonsense you speak!
Similarly, when you cannot measure by any known standards and
parameters, the love towards the mother, the love towards the
better half, and the love towards parents and friends, well, how
do you estimate the Love of God? How do you measure the Love for
Therefore, this story, this incident, this episode, this anecdote
of the illiterate women of Brindavan speaks of the fathomless
depths of experience, not about volumes of expression. You may be
a scholar, but not a devotee. You may be knowledgeable, but you
are not a seeker. You are knowledgeable from the position of your
knowledge. You are a scholar from the point of scholarship. But
all that is gathered from outside.
A TEACHER HAS A TIME AND SEASON,
A MASTER RESIDES AT THE ALTAR OF YOUR HEART
But what is it that is original? What is it that is creative? What
is it that you can tell me on the basis of your first-hand
Therefore, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa (a 19th century Bengali
saint) discontinued his studies while he was in class 7 or 8.
Jesus Christ was illiterate. Bhagavan Sathya Sai Baba also
discontinued His studies at a young age. But they have all become
Masters, not teachers.
A teacher needs qualifications; a Master needs identification.
A teacher talks to you; a Master inspires you.
A teacher has a time and season, a timetable, a schedule and a
syllabus, a place to meet, a classroom. A Master resides at the
altar of your heart.
A teacher communicates, while a Master communes. A teacher is
separate from you, while the Master is One with you, is the One
A teacher wants excellence. A Master says you are already
excellent. You are already excellent! You don’t have to work for
A teacher takes you to a different place, to a higher level. But a
Master keeps you where you are, and shows you what you already
That is Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. That is the message of Lord
BHAGAVAN IS ALONE BUT ALL IN ALL
The life of Krishna is an adventure. He fought all alone, yet He
is all in all for everyone. He is alone, but He is all to
everyone. That is Divinity.
Bhagavan is all alone, single. But He is all to every one of us.
He is all in all. But, on His own, He is alone. After bhajans,
when He goes all alone, one might think, ‘Oh God! You are alone.
But yet, You are in every one of us. You are personal and
impersonal. You are in, but also out.’ Because You are in and out
and beyond, that is Divinity.
LEAD A MATERIALISTIC LIFE WITH A SPIRITUAL GOAL
Life is an adventure. The life of Krishna was an adventure,
because He could annihilate all that was evil at that time. Life
is an adventure today, the life of materialism, when everything is
counted in terms of coins, dollars and money. It is only money
that matters in family relationships. It is the money that counts
when respecting anybody, in interrelationships.
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is the only one who says, “Money
comes and goes. Morality comes and grows.” That is life, an
adventure in the sea of materialism. We are in the midst of the
sea of materialism. Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba wants us to swim
against the tide. The adventure is not materialism.
But yet again, He doesn’t want us to run away from materialism.
Just because money is not the criterion, that doesn’t mean I
should remain a beggar. Definitely not! It does not mean that I
should make my pockets empty. Certainly not!
My friends, keep this sentence in your view. Lead a materialistic
life. Lead a materialistic life with a spiritual goal. Let all the
branches grow in height. Let the tree grow in height to reach the
heavens, which is spirituality. Let the roots be deeply rooted in
the mud, which is materialism.
If the roots are not firmly rooted there, the tree will be
uprooted. The tree has to be firm. So, that firmness is the
material life. The branches growing up to the heavens, quite tall,
gigantic, those represent the spiritual heights.
I can go on like this. There are many, many, many, many more
things to know from the life of Krishna and Bhagavan Sri Sathya
A PRAYER TO BHAGAVAN
So with this note of greeting, with this note of wishing you well,
with sincere prayers from the bottom of our heart to Bhagavan Sri
Sathya Sai Baba to bless every one of us, we still have two more
days before the celebration of Krishna Janmaashtami, (Krishna’s
birthday). So, as Krishna inspired Arjuna then, Baba, may You
continue to inspire everyone here, who is Arjuna himself.
“Oh Lord! Yes, You never vacated, You never left your residence
that was the heart of your devotee, the gopika in those days. Oh
Lord! I pray to You that You shall never leave me. I know that You
are there, but let there not be a moment of forgetfulness. Let
there not be any moment of unawareness.”
Once Krishna saved the life of an elephant, which was dragged into
a pool by a crocodile. A crocodile dragged the feet of an
elephant, so that elephant could not come out of the pool. In such
a state of helplessness, that elephant, Gajendra, started praying.
God responded. God stopped dining. God stopped conversing with His
consort. He left the dining table, started running, without
relaying what was happening in that moment of time. Responding to
the call was more important than having time to Himself.
“Oh God! You did that then. We pray that You continue to do this
for every one of us, because we are in dire and desperate need. We
want You to help every one of us. The crocodile of worldly
pleasures also catches our feet. We are also dragged into the pool
of materialistic life. We, each one of us a mighty elephant, cry
for Your help so that You can then come to our rescue.” God will
come for our relief, even now.
We also look to those days when He could pardon the demons, when
He could excuse the demons, and still grant them the state of
liberation. “Oh God! Even now, we do have some demonic qualities;
we do have some animal qualities, which we have come to know of
only after coming to You. Before You, we were proud of those
animal qualities. Having come here, we are exposed. We pray to You
so that we may get out of this demonic and bestial character.”
“Oh Lord Krishna, You collected all the robes of the women there,
all the saris of the women.” Krishna was a child at that time.
Here the sari, the dress, is not a physical dress. It is the
attachment to the body. “Oh Bhagavan, we want You to disrobe every
one of us so that we will not have body attachment.”
Child Krishna dances on the six hoods of the serpent. When Krishna
dances on the hoods of the serpent, the serpent vomits poison. “Oh
Bhagavan, may every one of us vomit the poison of hatred, the
poison of attachment, the poison of avarice, the poison of
possessiveness. Just as the serpent could vomit with You dancing
on its head, with Your Name in our heads, may all the bad be
Let that be the message of Krishna Janmaashtami for the day.
May Bhagavan bless you.
Thank you very much. (Applause)
(Anil Kumar closed his talk with the bhajan,
“Hari Narayana Govinda, Jaya Narayana Govinda”.)
Om Asato Maa Sad Gamaya
Tamaso Maa Jyotir Gamaya
Mrtyormaa Amrtam Gamaya
Om Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Babaji ki