Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at
December 16, 2001
The Sunday Talk Given by Anil Kumar Christmas Talks (Part Two)
16th December 2001.
OM… OM… OM…
With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of our Most Beloved Bhagavan,
Dear Brothers and Sisters!
Only One Christmas in Prasanthi Nilayam
Welcome back to the second talk on Christmas! Last week we had an
idea, glimpses of similarities between Sai and Christ. This second
is a continuation of last week.
Prashanti Nilayam is the only place where festivals of all faiths
are celebrated. Prashanti Nilayam is the center of all religions.
Prashanti Nilayam believes in fellowship of faiths. It accepts all
religions. It is a congregation of people of all religions who
worship together. If there is any place in this world where people
of all religions join together in praise of the same God, that is
Prashanti Nilayam. We thank God for having given us this privilege
and opportunity of being here in the Divine, immediate Presence to
learn from Him all that He wants to communicate in the present
Incarnation, in the form of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
You also know that among Christians, Catholics celebrate Christmas
in their own way, which is not attended by Protestants.
Protestants celebrate Christmas, not attended by Catholics. Jews
are not wanted by both of them. Jews’ Christmas, Protestants'
Christmas, Catholics’ Christmas. Well, there is only one Christmas
in Prashanti Nilayam. There is nothing like diversification, there
is nothing like fragmentation. We all join together in praise of
our Lord. We glorify Him. We just think of Him, chant His name
repeatedly, bask in bliss. That is the speciality of Prashanti
I also want to bring to your attention certain things that
Bhagavan said in His discourse. The fragrance of a flower is known
right from the beginning. We don’t have to wait for long. The
fragrance of a flower goes far and near. Similarly, Christ is born.
The Divinity of Christ targets, spreading everywhere. The Divinity
of the Lord Jesus Christ is recognized by people right from His
birth. How does it happen?
The Three Wise Men
Three kings visited the infant Jesus Christ. Three wise men
visited Jesus Christ. One wise man looked at the newborn babe of
Bethlehem and said, "This new-born baby will love God." Oh! The
second wise man looked at the baby more intensely, more closely,
"Oh, no, no! God will love this boy, you know that? God will love
this baby." That is the second statement of the second wise man.
And the third wise man has gone closer to the baby, as if ready to
kiss the child, the newborn babe of Bethlehem, and said, "No, no,
no, you both are wrong. I tell you, this baby will declare later
that he and God are One." This is the how the three wise men
looked at the newborn baby.
I repeat, first wise man said, "This boy will love God." And what
does it mean? The newborn baby there in Bethlehem, infant Jesus
Christ, will love God. That is the state of messenger of God.
Christ made three statements. In the beginning he said, "I am the
messenger of God." What does it mean? It is at the body level, the
body consciousness. The body consciousness makes him declare, "I
am the messenger of God." Well, that was the feeling of the first
wise man, who looked at the newborn babe of Bethlehem.
And later Christ said, "I am the Son of God." The same statement
was said by the second wise man there who declared, "This boy will
be loved by God." Not that he simply loves Him - God loves him too.
This is what you call ‘heart consciousness’. The body
consciousness made him declare that he is the messenger of God.
The heart consciousness made him rise to the level of Son of God.
The third wise man said, "No, no, both of you are wrong. This
little babe in future, is going to declare that he and God are
One." That’s what Christ said finally: "I and my Father in Heaven
are One." This is the Spirit consciousness.
In other words, Jesus Christ, as a model for all of us, a role
model for all seekers, for all aspirants in this world, then, now
and in future, demonstrates three levels or steps of consciousness.
At the beginning we believe that, "I am the body." That state is
the messenger of God. At a later state, I start reacting,
reflecting from within, from the place of the heart, the heart
consciousness, when I say, "I am the Son of God." Finally, I
experience the Divinity within me and identify with the Divinity.
At that state I declare, "I and my Father in Heaven are One."
John Chapter 10, verses 27 to 29, from the Holy Bible. Bhagavan
does not say, "Hindu Dharma", please remember that. Bhagavan does
not say, "Hindu Dharma." He calls it, "Sanathana Dharma" because
it was the most ancient, which gave birth to many of the religions,
which could encompass, which could embrace all schools of faiths,
all schools of philosophy, without any fanaticism, without any
adherence to a particular school of philosophy. It is like a
mighty ocean into which all rivers finally merge. All rivers merge
in the mighty ocean, just as the proverb goes: all roads lead to
Rome. Similarly, all faiths, all religions, finally merge into
As you know, from that level, a flower, with fertilization and
also pollution, slowly develops into a fruit, a tender fruit. A
tender fruit is bitter. We don’t start eating it, no. It’s not fit
for any eating then. The tender fruit ripens into a ripened fruit,
which is sweet. So a flower, which is fragrant, develops into an
unripe fruit, which is bitter. An unripe fruit develops into a
fully ripe fruit, which is sweet enough. In other words, I can't
get a ripe fruit without unripe fruit. I can't think of unripe
fruit without a flower. These are the three states.
Come back to this level of body consciousness, messenger of God.
It is like that of a flower. Secondly, the heart consciousness, "I'm
the Son of God" is like that of an unripe fruit. The third level,
Spirit consciousness, "I and my Father in Heaven are One," that is
the ripe fruit. One leads to the other. One is a corollary of the
other; one is a step along the ladder, taking you to the top. One
is never contradictory to the other.
In Sanathana Dharma there are three schools of philosophy. One
school of philosophy is called, ‘dwaitha’ or ‘dualism’. "God and I
are separate." A very comfortable philosophy. Let Him remain there
and allow me to remain here. (Laughter) I’ll be happy and You’ll
be happy, yes! So God and I are different. This is what you call
‘dwaitha’ or ‘dualism’, messenger of God.
And the second state is qualified non-dualism, ‘vishishta
adwaitha’. ‘Vishishta’ means ‘special’. I’m not only a devotee; I'm
not only separate from God; but I'm little closer to Him. A little
closer. Because I have started experiencing Him, I started growing
in sadhana, spiritual practice. I'm coming closer and closer,
dearer and dearer, nearer and nearer. Now I'm no longer a
messenger! I'm the Son of God, OK? I'm close to Him. This is
qualified non-dualism, the Son of God, the second state of
Finally, the aspirant or the seeker goes on concentrating,
contemplating, meditating on the Divine. He forgets his body
consciousness; he forgets his heart-mind; and he recognizes the
spirit in him is very much the same as that of the Divine. ‘God
and I are One.’ This is what you call ‘non-dualism’ or ‘adwaitha’.
That is the level of Spirit consciousness, when Christ declares,
"I and my Father in heaven are one." Our Bhagavan has repeatedly
How identical religions are! How similar religions are! The basic
principles are so similar, identical, homologous and analogous at
the same time. They never go against each other. They never
condemn any other philosophy. It is only politics that made
religion political. Religion should get into the field of politics
to unify people. But unfortunately, politics has stepped into
religion and divided us. How fortunate we are to come to know the
parallels between the two religions.
Embodiments of Love
And here, I would also like to draw to your attention to another
point that Bhagavan often say. First, John, 4th Chapter, 24th
verse: What does it say? Bhagavan addresses us in this way in
every one of His discourses. He will never say, "Ladies and
Gentlemen." If you heard this anytime, let me know! (Laughter) I
don’t think that He said that anytime. He never said, "Ladies and
Gentlemen," no, I don’t think so. (Whether we are gentlemen or not,
it is best to know unto one’s own self!) (Laughter) So, He knows
it. So, there’s nothing like "Ladies and Gentlemen" or "Brothers
and Sisters", nothing like that.
He says, "Members of this Divine Assembly." Or He would say, "Embodiments
of the Divine Atma." "The Embodiments of Divine Love", that’s how
he addresses the gathering because He sees you not as a body. He
looks at you not in the form of the mind. You are the Spirit and
Bhagavan addresses Himself. He’s not addressing anybody. Please
let us be aware of it.
There was one question put to Him: "Swami, how is it that we don’t
have faith in You?" You know what Baba said? "I have faith in you,
and you have no faith in Me. That is the tragedy." Why? Why do I
have no faith and You have faith in me? What a paradox it is!
Bhagavan said, "I have faith in you because I know you and I are
One. I know that I am in you; I know that you are in Me; that both
are one and the same. You do not know that. You think we are
different. You think we are separate. Therefore you have no faith
in Me." That’s what Bhagavan has said.
So Swami says, "You are not the body; you are not the mind; you
are not the intellect; you are the Spirit or the Self or Atma,
Embodiments of Divine Atma." That’s how He begins His Divine
discourse every time. So you are the Spirit. No one would say that
you are the body. If you are the body, well, there is no question
of death at all. All medical practitioners would be unemployed.
There’d be no pharmaceuticals. We can have a life, an easy go.
So, I'm not the body, sure, and I'm not the mind either. The mind
looses its memory now and then. The mind fails; the mind is
perverted at times; the mind is negative quite often. Positivity
and negativity are the two facets of the mind, the obverse and the
reverse of the same coin. The mind is not the same throughout. The
body is not the same throughout. The curly hair at one time is
replaced by a bald-head later. (Laughter) Slim, thin body - later
it becomes such a flumpy body that the doors have got to be
widened. (Laughter) If one starts looking at one’s own photos,
well, one would feel ashamed. Better all the mirrors be broken.
Why? Because I'm not that handsome now, as I was a quarter of a
So, that which constantly changes, that which changes is not
Divine. That which constantly changes is not Brahmananda.
Therefore, body changes; mind changes, intellect also changes
because intellect sometimes proceeds along selfish grounds, what
we call ‘individual discrimination’. Bhagavan always says this,
‘individual discrimination’. Intellect goes on supporting all you
do. Intellect goes on endorsing all you do. Though people call you
a wretch ‘number one’, the intellect says, "No, I'm a saint. You
do not know!" Because the intellect starts discriminating on the
individual’s grounds, what is called ‘individual discrimination’.
This will be spoiling a person because of selfishness and
Therefore, you’re not the mind; you’re not the intellect; but you
are the Spirit or Self or Atma. God, the Spirit, John, 4th Chapter,
God Is Light
And Bhagavan at another time said, "I am in the Light; the Light
is in me; I am the Light." There are these three levels of
consciousness. It is a feast to listen to Bhagavan! People may
look at me rather strangely, "Why is this man very much excited?"
You look rather strange to me for the simple reason of why you are
not equally excited! (Laughter) Yes! Why? Because no one gives
such a beautiful interpretation as Bhagavan does. No one ever gave
that. Naturally you’ll be excited, you’ll be very much surprised,
thrilled, and feel like sharing with everybody.
So, ‘You are in the Light’ is the first level. ‘The Light is in
me’ is the second level of consciousness. ‘I am the Light’ is the
final level. So, God is with the Spirit. John again says, first
Chapter, 25th verse, "God is Light." God is Light. That is delight
to every one of us. Why? The Light speaks of brilliance. The Light
stands for shedding the darkness, dispelling the darkness of
Light is awareness. Light is wisdom. With the dawn of the Light of
wisdom, the darkness of ignorance is totally gone, dispelled. And
therefore, God is Light: ‘Prajnana Brahma’. ‘Prajnana’ means ‘awareness’.
‘Prajnana’ means ‘wisdom’. ‘Prajnana’ means ‘Light of lights’.
That will dispel the darkness of ajnana, ignorance or Maya,
illusion. So, God is Light. He will not allow you to be in
God Is Love
God is Love. John, 4th Chapter, 4th verse: John the Baptist has
mentioned in these chapters - God the Spirit; God is Light; God is
Love. Bhagavan says, "God is Love. Love is God. Live in Love." See
that? Only the form has changed; only the times have changed; only
people have changed. But the essence of the message has never been
changed. Let us be aware of that. "The forms have changed. Men may
come and men may go. But I go on forever." Similarly, the clarion
call, the Divine message continues, continues and continues. It is
one of continuity to eternity. It does not change.
So here we find, "God is Love. Love is God. Live in Love." What is
Love? Bhagavan, what is Love? We don’t know what Love is,
particularly today, when thousands and thousands are killed
mercilessly. Genocide, where there is no Truth, where there is no
faith, where there is no trust in families. God, oh Bhagavan, let
me know what Love is!
Today we are leading such a miserable life that we have to learn
the meaning of Love. Whomsoever says, "Hello, how are you?" you
can expect that they want something in return immediately. If any
members of your office come to your office and say, "Good morning,
how are you?" and you say, "Fine", you can expect that he will
give his leave letter for immediate sanction. (Laughter) So the
greetings and exchanges have become matters of certain objectives,
selfish interests. There’s no Love at all.
To propagate, to instill and to kindle the Love, which is latent
within every one of us, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is amidst us
in the form of the latest, the modern Incarnation, the Avatar. Yes,
He is here to let you know that you are full of Love. You are born
with Love, but this Love is robbed off with the march of time,
with age, due to selfishness.
God is Love. What is Love, Swami? Any number of books can be
written on that. You know Baba gave a simple definition of Love:
"Love is selflessness; self is lovelessness." When we listen to
certain statements of Bhagavan in English, all of us will be
really shocked and thrilled. What beautiful English it is! Why
have a translator then? I do not know. (Laughter) The only reason
I can imagine is to provide you with fun and entertainment now and
then because this translator is capable of committing mistakes
repeatedly, time and again. (Laughter) The talk cannot be so
serious all through. To add some pep talk now and then, a little
humor, when the translator commits a mistake, fine. So that way
we’ll be geared up and listen to the next point in rapt attention.
Am I not right? So, this is absolutely true because Swami knows
all the languages after all.
And then further He said, "Love is so important that you cannot
limit it to yourself." "I love myself," is selfishness. "I love my
family." You have got to - there’s no alternative. (Laughter) "I
love people of my political party." Yes, or else you cannot be
elected. (Laughter) So, this sort of a love is just narrow,
limited. That’s all. So Swami says, "Love all and serve all." That
‘all’ not only includes your family, your political party, your
province, your county, but the whole world. Love is universal.
That Love is God. This is what Bhagavan has said.
Coming At an Unexpected Hour
Let us also know about certain Biblical prophecies – what the
Bible said about Incarnations. See Luke Gospel, 12thChapter, Verse
number 40. You know what he says in Luke’s Gospel? "You also must
be ready because the Son of man is coming at an unexpected hour."
The Bible did not say "On 1926, November 23rd". Why? "He comes
down in an unexpected hour." So we cannot deny the fact that the
Bible already predicted the future in telling that the Son of man
is coming at an unexpected hour. Be ready. Be not only prepared
physically, my friends, but let us also be prepared spiritually.
Particularly when we are not there, Bhagavan comes. Say we just go
for coffee, having been sitting there right from 2 o’clock.
Immediately God comes there and asks, "Where is he?" He’ll ask for
you. But when you are there, you are ignored. When you are not
there, it is registered immediately. See that! Shall I go for
coffee? No, I can't decide. Swami may come immediately. Yesterday
evening somebody said, "Anil Kumar, darshan is over. Better you go
home." Very good! I'm prepared to go home. I'm waiting for such
news because hot coffee would be ready for me! But yet, why can't
I take a chance? I don’t know what would happen. Let me see if it
is true; let me verify. This man said it’s OK, but let me also
personally verify. I went there and continued sitting and within
two seconds, Swami came out again! (Laughter)
It only means that you cannot predict God. You cannot give Him a
timetable: "Swami, darshan is at 2 – 2:15PM. You can come out
again at 2:45. Then please return." You cannot give Him any
timetable. He comes to you at an unexpected hour, at an unexpected
time, during an unexpected hour of need. Or He’ll come at that
unexpected hour of danger, that unexpected hour when you need
rescue, recovery, or for your safety and security. Now you can
The Experience of Sinclair
When Sinclair (from Connecticut, United States) was flying high in
his helicopter, the engines failed. Then he heard some call, some
voice saying, "Don’t worry. Turn to the left. Turn to the right.
Come on and land on the ground!" And he landed safely on the
ground. He returned home to see a red-robed dark man with a halo
of hair, sitting on the sofa-set right in the drawing room,
smiling mischievously. He said, "Hello! Yes, how are you?" That’s
it. "Why are you here?" "Just I have come to see you." That’s all,
and he forgot what all that had happened.
After a year, when Sinclair went to the house of Goldstein, in Los
Angeles, California, he saw the picture of Sri Sathya Sai Baba
there. Then he shouted, "Oh, is he the man! Uh, who is he? (Laughter)
Is he the man? Is this guy anyway by chance here in America?" "No,
no, no, no, no, no! He has not come to America, I'm quite sure.
He’s right over there in India." "What! How is it? He visited my
house, you know. I spoke to Him." As He’s God, Sinclair did not
have to come to God, but God came to him.
Then, having been thoroughly convinced by Goldstein, Sinclair made
a dash to visit India. And Bhagavan granted him an interview and
said, "I came to see you long back and today you have come to see
Me." (Laughter) So be ready! God comes at an unexpected hour with
no prior appointment, no, no, no! "At an unexpected hour." So let
us be ready, ever-ready.
Whiskey Is Not Risky?
I also recall an incident when a person wanted to have hot drinks
in Prashanti Nilayam. Well, he brought one bottle of whiskey. He
thought it was not risky. (Laughter) He didn’t choose liquor
because he’s afraid that might act quicker. He thought that
whiskey is not risky, so he came here along with his friend.
This is recorded in "Experiences of Devotees From South Africa," a
small violet covered booklet, for your information. As I'm a
teacher, I have gathered all grounds of proof and evidence. It is
not because you doubt that I mention this, but because I may have
to face different sets of audiences in different situations.
Well, these two friends said, "Hi! Cheers, cheers!" And they have
brought two beautiful glasses to the Round Building. They emptied
that whiskey bottle there into the glasses, ready to drink. When
they went to drink, they did not taste whiskey, but tasted aqua,
H2O, water only! (Laughter) "What! What’s wrong, what's wrong! We
bought it, you know. It’s imported stuff. It can't be like this!
It should give us kick from stomach to the toes. But how is it? It
is tasteless! What’s wrong now?"
Well, then they thought, "We have not washed the two glasses
properly. (Laughter) There might be some water left over inside,
something like a day-old hangover. Some left-over water must be
there." Then what they did was they cleaned the glasses another
time, again rinsed them thoroughly, and then poured whiskey into
the two glasses. "Right! This time, double cheers!" (Laughter) But
when they started drinking, it was aqua, water, once again! They
were very much vexed.
"What happened to all the money? What happened to all this? We are
not used to water. We only take whiskey." Finally the friend said,
"I bought this bottle. Let me take it straight from this bottle,
without the interference of the hopeless glass! (Laughter) This
glass seems to possess some kind of mischief. (Laughter) No, no!
Let me have the bottle straight away!" When he starting drinking
from the bottle, it was not a whiskey bottle. It was only a
Bisleri bottle! (Laughter) He was very upset! Then the next
morning, when they came and sat for darshan, Bhagavan went to them
closely and said, "Cheers, Cheers? How were you last night?" (Applause)
My friends, I'm telling you this story to let you know that God
appears at an unexpected hour, not at an appointed time. No, at an
unexpected hour. Particularly when we talk to our neighbor, we
find him peeping through. There ends the matter. So we have got to
be on our toes all the time, according to Luke 12th Chapter, 40th
Bhagavan’s Melodious Voice
Then I should also tell you that it is not possible for everybody
to know, to identify and to live with God. He knows. Bhagavan said
at one time. "I choose My own devotees. You are here because of My
Will. It is not that you wanted to be here. I wanted you to be
here. No one can make a trip to Prasanthi Nilayam without My
Will," declared Bhagavan.
So wherever we are seated, He will certainly identify us, having
brought us all the way all along. That’s what is said here in
John, 3rd Chapter, 16th verse. What does it say? "My sheep hear My
voice, and I know them and they know Me. I give them eternal life
and they shall never perish." That’s John, 3rd Chapter, 16th
verse. What does it say? "My sheep hear My voice." Yes.
A number of people may talk. We might have got used to many, many
voices. But we certainly recognize Bhagavan’s melodious voice
because Bhagavan’s melodious voice is unequaled, unparalleled, so
nectarine, so musical, a celestial voice. We know our human
voices: when they are silent, we enjoy the time at least. Some
voices are so disturbing.
My teacher used to joke, on listening to my voice. My teacher, who
was a great person, always used to say, "Usually we sing songs to
make children go to sleep. But when Anil Kumar starts singing,
children will get up from their sleep immediately!" (Laughter) And
further he said, "They may also fall from the swing or from the
bed altogether!" Yes! Then I said, "Sir! Nagarsankirtan is meant
to wake people up. I don’t allow them to go to bed. So I'm the
right person to sing along the streets, to make everybody get up."
That’s right! That’s the purpose of Nagarsankirtan, right?
So the point is that we know Bhagavan’s voice. It is totally
different. Swami’s voice is so unique. We know that. And Bhagavan
knows our voices. Suppose I start speaking of somebody; Swami
comes and says, "Are you talking to your neighbor?" "No, Swami."
You cannot bluff Him because He knows your voice. We know His
voice and He knows our voice. That is the Divine Romance. "And
they know Me. I give them eternal life and they shall never
As we listen to His voice repeatedly, His discourses, His bhajans,
it is such a familiar voice. Bhagavan's voice is our inner voice.
The inner voice is Bhagavan’s voice, the conscience. The
conscience within every one of us is the inner voice. That is
Bhagavan’s voice. Therefore, you shall never perish when you
listen to Bhagavan’s voice from within. You shall never perish,
you shall never be put to danger, you shall never fail in the
tasks given to you because you listen to the inner voice.
Many times Bhagavan speaks to us, but we pay a deaf ear. That’s
the reason why the Holy Bible says, "You have eyes, but you see
not. You have ears, but you hear not." So we have ears, but we
hear not. We have eyes, but we see not. With eyes, we are blind
and with ears, we are deaf because we don’t pay heed to the inner
voice, the conscience. Therefore, when once we pay heed to the
inner voice, the conscience, "You shall never perish," says
His Works Speak For Themselves
Then, next point is this: John, 14th Chapter, 11th verse. "Believe
Me, for the sake of the works themselves." Kindly note this point.
We can speak for any length of time on this sentence. "Believe Me,
for the sake of the works themselves." How is Bhagavan known?
Bhagavan is known through His works. He’s not any static body.
Bhagavan is dynamic. The activity and tasks that He has undertaken
speak for themselves. The person and the project are one and the
Perhaps it is quite unbelievable to think of certain of the
medical projects today. How true it is when Alfred Nobel, who
visited Prasanthi Nilayam recently, called for the Visitor’s Book
and declared, writing there openly: "Sathya Sai Super Speciality
Hospital is a gift to Mankind. Sathya Sai Baba is unique. No one
has ever undertaken such a project in the history of Mankind." Can
you believe that?
Bhagavan’s works speak. His works and projects speak for
themselves. You don’t have to introduce Him. I don’t have to
introduce the Sun. The sunlight is the way of introduction to the
Sun. Moonlight is an introduction to the Moon himself. The stars
that glitter need no introduction; and the flowers need no
introduction, as their fragrance speaks for them. Their fragrance
speaks of the flowers. The moonlight speaks of the moon. Likewise,
the projects of Bhagavan speak of Bhagavan.
So, that’s what He said here: "Believe Me, for the sake of the
works themselves, believe me." Why? They are unbelievable. He
says, "Believe Me," because they’re unbelievable. We’re not able
to conceive and we are not able to imagine because such stupendous
tasks only He could accomplish.
Lifting Iron Girders
When the present Mandir (where we are sitting now) was called
Prashanti Nilayam Mandir, there was an Old Mandir here earlier. At
the time of its construction, some beams were necessary. It is not
an ordinary Mandir, full of stone, boulders, all beams, iron
girders and all that. And there was no mode of transport to
Puttaparthi at that time. (My friends, I'm reporting to you
directly what I heard from Swami. Kodaikanal is the place where
Swami speaks of those things, which are very, very rare for us to
And He told this: "All iron girders were brought here. They had to
be lifted there and kept on the top for laying the roof. The
concrete work was still there. Iron girders were lying on the
ground. Well, what to do? These girders were not here in the
beginning. They were there near Penukonda, a few miles away from
here. How to bring them here? How to lift them up there? That was
the question. All people were very much worried how to transport
these iron girders from Penukonda to Puttaparthi. How to transport
them? Would it be easy? No!
See how Bhagavan works! One day a few engineers came to Swami.
"Why are you here?" The engineers said, "Bhagavan, we are taking
care of Tungabhadra Project, under construction near Kurnool. We
have got the cranes to lift any heavy things. On our way back, we
are running short of petrol. We have come here to pray, so that
You may give us or bless us with some petrol." (Laughter) Bhagavan
said, "Petrol? I’ll give you petrol to your cranes and petrol to
your stomachs also. Don’t worry. Yes, but see that those girders
are brought from Penukonda because it is on your way."
What a master plan it was! (Laughter) See that! The fellows have
to pass through this way only! So they brought all iron girders.
They were just laid on the ground. Who will lift them? Engineers
can’t lift. And Seva Dal people, it’s not possible. Seva Dal
people have come here for padanamaskar and to receive some sweets.
We are not physically strong enough to do that! (Laughter) We have
got some spiritual bonus, so for that purpose we are here. We are
not regular laborers. We can't do it; we are not skilled. What to
Bhagavan said, "Come on! Lift!" Who will do that? Swami said, "All
Seva Dal come here." They all came and tried to lift it. When they
were trying to lift on one side, Swami started walking on that.
Whole thing – Zaaaap! - went up like that. It was so easy!
Bhagavan’s body itself was like a crane for the iron girders to go
to the top! (Applause) You see how unbelievable it is. That is
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
And at a time when this University was to be started, the
University Grants Commission then said, "You cannot get
permission, Swami. It is impossible to start the University
there." Why? No University can exist within the radius of 20 miles
when there is already another University. You have got the
Krishnadevaraya University there at Anantapur. You have got
Venkateswara University there at Tirupathi. So, I don’t think You
can get the University (status)." Swami looked at her and said,
"There in Delhi, I AM going to get the University, and YOU are
going to inaugurate it." (Laughter) OK, that’s it. The University
came and then she came all the way to inaugurate the University,
do you know that? So, "Believe Me, for the sake of the works
This Rayalaseema area, particularly Anantapur District, is known
for draught. The draught is to such an extent that even a drop of
water is not available during summer. It is such a horrible place.
History recorded it nicely. And today, you find lawns that side
and this side. Lawns! I'm not able to believe it, seeing with my
own eyes as I belong to the same province. How do you expect lawns
there? Now we have even got the sprinklers and fountains! Baba,
You can do anything! Swami, You can do anything! You can convert a
wetland into a desert and a desert into a wetland! You are capable
of doing it! The proof: today we have got lawns there.
And today we find Sathya Sai Drinking Water Project being extended
to about 800 villages in the district, a district that suffered
for long centuries - centuries, I tell you! So, "Believe Me, for
the sake of the works themselves": the works and the projects are
absolutely Divine, unbelievable, beyond human imagination, beyond
human achievement, comprehension, and accomplishment. Let’s
Greater Works Than These He Will Do
And then there is John, 14th Chapter, 12th verse. Clearly friends,
my dear brothers, please listen to this statement. What did Christ
say? "Greater works than these He will do. Because I go to the
Father." What beautiful English! John Ruskin became a beautiful
writer in English prose because he learnt by heart the whole of
the Bible. His mother wanted him to know it by heart, and so John
Ruskin’s prose English is ‘Number One’ in English literature. Yes.
Of course, today’s modern generation may not think of Ruskin at
all because they’re ‘in risks’ not Ruskin. (Laughter)
So do you see the point? What does he say? Christ said, "Greater
works are going to be done by Him because I'm going back to my
Father." What does it mean? Christ made certain things happen.
Christ did certain miracles and he said, "In future, greater
works, more works, in multiples, are going to be done by Him." By
Him? Who is He? Sathya Sai Baba! "As I go to my Father. As I go
back to my Father, greater works are going to be done by Him."
That is the prediction in John’s Gospel, 14th Chapter and 12th
verse: "Greater works."
A simple example: one scholar was speaking on one of the days of
Navarathi celebration, Dasara, in the immediate Divine Presence of
Bhagavan. The scholar is a really well read man and highly
resourceful, and he was speaking about the Bhagavatha, with
particular reference to the miracles of Lord Krishna. "Lord
Krishna is no ordinary boy. He’s God Himself, Purna Avatar. He
could lift one mountain with his little finger, ‘Govardhana’. Such
a powerful God He is." The scholar went on explaining, and all
audience started hearing in rapt attention, cheering him.
That was followed by Bhagavan’s discourse. He said, "Krishna
lifted one mountain. Today I lift hundreds of mountains. You can
see that. You can see many of the mountains being lifted up today.
Otherwise, we don’t find the entire humanity thronging, the entire
humanity grouping here in Prashanti Nilayam." That’s really
wonderful! "Why mountain, one mountain? I lift so many mountains
around." That’s what Bhagavan said.
That’s what He said here in the Bible, "More tasks, greater tasks
then what you see will be done by Him because I go back to my
Father." That’s what is said in John, 14th Chapter, 12th verse.
He Who Sent Me Is With Me
Again, in John 8th Chapter, verses 28, 29, 38, 42, what do they
say? This is the highest level of awareness. "He who sent me is
with me. He has not left me alone. For, I always do what is
pleasing to Him." There are three important points here. Kindly
follow them. The first thing: "He, who sent me, is with me."
Meaning what? Swami often says in discourse, "God is with me, in
me, above me, around me." That’s what He says. You know that. You
must have heard Bhagavan’s discourses: "God is in me. He is with
me, above me, below me, around me." It is only to impress upon us
that we are basically and essentially Divine.
That’s so: "He has sent me. It was Jehovah, the Lord of Lords,
God, who has sent me." Christ is the Son of God: "He, my Father
who has sent me, is always with me." Yes, He is with you all
right. "He has not left me alone."
A devotee came to Swami and said, "Swami, I'm returning. My visa
date is fast expiring and my return ticket is ready. I'm leaving
Swami, so please bless me." Bhagavan tells him, "Why do you say,
‘I am leaving?’ WE are leaving!" "Swami, ‘we’? I have got only one
ticket." "No, no, no! I am also coming with you!" You are not left
alone. You are not one (all alone). You’re always in the company
of God. God is with you, behind you, beside you, in you, above
you, around you, as Bhagavan declares repeatedly.
So, "He has not left me alone, for I always do what is pleasing to
Him." This is a conditional clause. Kindly bear this in mind: "For
I have been doing what all that pleases Him." What did Baba say?
"I look to you if you look to Me. Why fear when I am here?" When
we follow Him, He’ll certainly be with us, behind us, talking to
us. So, sometimes I don’t feel Him because I am not obeying Him.
Sometimes I don’t enjoy Him from within because I'm not following
His command. I'm not along the Sai path. So, Jesus Christ here in
this Gospel beautifully tells us, "God will never leave you alone.
He’s always with you, in you, and above you because you follow and
do all that is pleasing to Him" So, Swami wants us to act in a way
that will please Him.
Talking to boys, Swami always tells them like this: "Whenever
you’re supposed to act, whenever you’re supposed to do anything,
just question yourselves, ‘Will this make Swami happy or not? Will
this be pleasing to Him or not? Is this right or wrong?’ Exercise
your discrimination and then start accordingly." That’s what
Christ has said here.
Persecution of John the Baptist
Then, Mathew, 11th Chapter, verses 4 to 6: You must have heard in
the Holy Bible an episode of John the Baptist. John the Baptist
was persecuted. He was beaten like anything. He was frustrated.
Later, he was also beheaded. You know that. John the Baptist was
beheaded. But before that he was tortured, he was whipped
continuously by King Herodes.
All devotees will pass through this torture. All devotees will
pass through the test of the time. Life is not a bed of roses.
Why? For the world to know how strong he was in devotion, how firm
he was in devotion, John the Baptist was persecuted and tortured.
Then John says this - what a beautiful statement it is! "Are you
the one to come? Or should we look for another?" This Swami says
It seems a devotee, a great devotee from this state of Andhra
Pradesh, could not bear all his suffering. So he questioned God,
"God, am I running short of devotion or are You powerless, by any
chance? (Laughter) Don’t I have devotion or don’t You have power?
What’s wrong with You? Why do You allow me to be tortured like
that?" This was the prayer and the cry of a devotee by name of
Ramdas from Andhra Pradesh.
So he went on, "Are You there or not?" That is also registered
there in Bhagavatha, "Are You there or not? Are You blind? Why
don’t You see me? Why don’t You take care of me? Don’t You see the
tears rolling down my cheeks? Don’t You see the unbearable pain I
have been suffering from? O God, what happened to You? All right,
I’ll look for somebody else. Since You are not thinking of me, I
shall think of someone else. Is that right?" That was the feeling
of John the Baptist at the time of his persecution.
This news was carried to Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ now tells
him, "I can understand why John said these words, and why he
wanted to shift his loyalty like the modern politicians. I can
understand." Now he tells the messenger, "Look here, go and tell
John, go and tell him what you hear. Go and tell him what you are
hearing." What is it? "The blind have received their sight. Don’t
you find blind people regaining their vision? Don’t you see people
who are cured, who are relieved by me, who were born blind? Tell
him, tell John."
Not only that. "The lame walk. Those who could not walk, the lame,
started walking after coming to me. Lepers have been cleansed; the
deaf hear; the dead are raised up again. Tell him. The poor have
good news reaching them." These are the things mentioned in the
words of Jesus Christ. Brothers, what do they mean now? The blind
receive their sight by the touch of Jesus Christ. The blind people
started seeing again. They had their vision restored.
The Blind Will See
There is a village about 20 minutes’ drive from my native place. A
very rich man came along with his friends for Bhagavan’s darshan.
He was quite all right, but after 60, he went totally blind. After
60, there was some eye problem. Swami granted them an interview.
The whole group sat there in the interview room. This blind man,
an elderly person, sat on a chair. Swami started talking to them,
"How are you, how are you?" "Fine, fine!"
He looked at this old man and said, "Do you see Me?" Does He not
know that he is quite blind? (Laughter) He answered, "’Do you see
Swami?’ I'm not able to see YOU!" Swami’s reply, "Oh, I see. When
you had sight, you never saw Me. When you lost it, you want to see
Me. That is the irony of life. So when your vision was fine, when
your eyes were perfect, you never saw Me. And today, ‘Swami, I
want to see You. I have no vision now.’"
And then Swami looked at his son saying, "How are you, fellow? It
is your responsibility to take care of your family. You are so
busy in politics that you are not taking care of family
responsibilities. And you’re so fat. I only named you 25 years
ago, but you’re so fat now. Follow the diet regulations. If you
have got fat like this, well, you will certainly fall sick. This
is not the way. Young fellows should be trim and slim. What is
this? Your face, your body is something like a question mark!
(Laughter) That’s not the way." He joked like that.
And then Swami started giving vibhuthi to all the members there in
the interview room. He came to this man and said, "Don’t worry, I
know you." And kept His gentle, beautiful blessing Hand on both of
his eyes. Then this man started shouting, "JAI SAI RAM!" because
his vision was restored! He could see immediately! The one who was
totally blind, whose vision could not be restored for so long,
started seeing again. That’s what Christ did: "The blind will
see." Yes, the blind received their sight, and the lame walked.
Those days I was in Brindavan. A lady was called for an interview
along with many people. Of course, one wheelchair was not
sufficient for her. She really needed two wheelchairs to go. But
somehow she got dumped into one wheelchair, stuffed into one
wheelchair. It took four people to just push her into the
interview room. I mention all this so that you can imagine her
weight. She was from Ireland.
Well, they got the interview. At the end of the interview, I saw
this lady coming out of the interview room walking! She went in on
a wheelchair, but she came out walking. Many, many people know
this grace. Many people, who can't walk, start walking with Sai’s
grace. That is the handwork and that is the miracle of Bhagavan
Sri Sathya Sai Baba. He came close to me and said, "She’s from
Ireland and she’s suffering from acute arthritis. She could not
move for the last 13 years. Now you see her walking."
That’s what Jesus said in the Holy Bible: "The lame walk; the
lepers shall be cleansed." ‘Lepers cleansed’ refers to all the
sick who will be healed. That’s exactly what we find in the Super
Speciality Hospital today. The deaf hear. You may not be able to
hear anybody, but somehow by His grace, you’ll be able to hear
Bhagavan’s discourse. "The deaf hear; the dead are raised up
The Sick Will Be Healed
You heard of Lazarus. The Bible says Lazarus rose from the dead.
Lazarus, who had died, by the touch of Jesus Christ, could rise up
again. "Lazarus rose from the dead", says the Holy Bible. Today
there are a number of instances where people rose from the dead
due to Bhagavan’s grace. To give you one example, there was one
man named Walter Cowen from the United States of America, from the
state of California I believe (where the Tustin library is
located, which was looked after by his wife, Elsie Cowen). Cowen
rose from the dead. That we saw. Then there’s one place by the
name of Koppam here. There was a gentleman who lived there by the
name of Radhakrishna Shetty, who was declared dead by the doctors.
But he rose from the dead. So, like what Jesus did, now again the
dead are raised up.
"The poor have good news preached to them." ‘Poor’ here does not
mean financial poverty, but ‘poor in spirit’, meaning those who
are mundane and worldly. They have got good news, the Gospel, the
spiritual knowledge, imparted to them through interview and
discourses and Sai literature.
And then we read John, 16th Chapter, verses 25 and 28. "Believing,
you may have life in His Name." Today, after all, one may be
alive, but watching some person’s face, we find he is a dead log
of wood. He’s alive, but what for? There is no smile, there is no
bliss, there is no dynamism. There is no activity. He is like a
passive log of wood. What is his life for?
Once there in Brindavan, when He was just climbing down the steps
outside, Bhagavan said something, which I want to mention. As He
came out, we saw many birds and many ducks there, all jumping and
dancing, with both the wings flying high. They all started
jumping. Then Swami came and said: "You see how lively they are!
They are full of life! See how smiling they are! How beautiful
they are! Why? With God’s darshan, the whole universe is happy!
With God’s darshan, the whole world rejoices!"
Christmas is a celebration. Christmas is a festival. Christmas is
a melody. Christmas is music because Christmas makes us alive and
full of life. Bhagavan refers to this particular aspect. "You will
have life in His name." When I sing His glory, when I am sure of
His presence, I'm really alive. Or else, I appear as if I am
waiting for doomsday!
And then John, 21st Chapter, verse 25: "But there are also many
other things and, were every one of them to be written, I suppose
the world itself can't contain the books that would be written." I
call to your attention the Man of Miracles, written by Howard
Murphet from Australia. There Murphet has written, "If the whole
sea water were to be made into ink and the earth into a book, it
could not contain all the leelas of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
If a book were to come in the size of Planet Earth and the sea
water were to turn into ink (along with the trees serving as pens)
you would still not be able to exhaust the beauty, glory and
grandeur of the Divinity of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba."
That’s what he said here now, just like John did then. All the
books, yes, are being written. I suppose the world itself can't
contain all the books, even if the whole world became a library!
It still cannot contain all those books. And today, Bhagavan Sri
Sathya Sai Baba, while He is still in His body, right now we find
so many books there in the bookstall in all of the languages of
the world. Can anybody dream of such a thing? Books are written in
all languages, while hundreds and hundreds of books are added to
Sai literature every day. That’s what John predicted earlier: that
the world cannot contain all the books written about Him.
Truth Is One
And then John, 14th Chapter, 20th verse: "In that, you will know
that I am in the Father, and you are in me and I in you." "I am in
the Father, the Father is in me, and I am in you." This is what
you call non-dualism or adwaitha philosophy. The Father is in me;
I am in the Father; both of us are there in you. So we are not
two, but only One. Ekam Sat Vipraha Bahuda Vadanthi. The Truth is
One. That’s what is said.
The Bible says, "You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set
you free." That means free from bondage, liberated. What is the
Truth? The Truth is One, Truth is One. God is One who is
omnipresent and omniscient. God is One. That Truth has got to be
known. And once we know that, "Everything shall be added unto
you." The Bible says clearly, "Seek Ye the kingdom of Heaven, and
everything shall be added unto you."
When once we know the glory of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba,
everything shall be added unto you. Everything will be given to
you more and more, more and more. That is the promise of the
Bible. And there in the Gita He declares, "Yoga Kshemam vyaham
yaham." "Seek ye the Kingdom of Heaven, everything shall be added
unto you," declares the Holy Bible.
My friends, this morning I take leave of you, emphasizing once
again that the gospel of Truth then, according to the Holy Bible,
is the very same gospel repeated by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ,
for whom the entire Christian world has been eagerly awaiting.
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba is the Second Coming of Christ. He’s
the Cosmic Christ. He’s the very Father, who had sent His only Son
to earth. He’s the Cosmic Visitor.
Next week’s Sunday we’ll also have a few more thoughts about
Christmas and Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Thank you for
listening to me in rapt attention! (Applause)
(Anil Kumar closed his satsang by leading the bhajan, 'Bhaja Mana
Om Asato Maa Sad Gamaya
Tamaso Maa Jyotir Gamaya
Mrtyormaa Amrtam Gamaya
Om Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Next week we’ll be meeting again, same day same time! Thank you!
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji Ki Jai!
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji Ki Jai!
Jai Bolo Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ji Ki Jai!
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