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  Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at Prasanthi Nilayam
September 17, 2000

The Main points from the Sunday Talk given by Anil Kumar on September 17th, 2000



(1) Muslims Come to Prashanti Nilayam

(2) "Black and White, Both Are In Me."

(3) "If You Are Both Happy and Healthy, I Am Happy."


(1) On Fear of God

(2) Fear Takes Us To Worry

(3) How To Be Free From Worry

(4) On the Fear of Death

(5) Socrates

(6) Who Is a True Guru?

(7) What Is the Job of a Master or a Guru?

(8) God Does Not Have Any Anger

(9) God Promotes Us To the Higher Step

(10) The Story of an Old Devotee

(11) Guru Has a Body To Take You Out of Body Consciousness

(12) The Teachings of a Guru Touch Your Heart and Not the Mind

(13) Don't Have Doubts

(14) A Real Guru Will Always Speak About Your True Nature

(15) What Is 'Upasana', According To Bhagavan?

(16) Godís Compassion Has No Limits

(17) Total Passive Surrender

(18) Constant Integrated Awareness


Sai Ram.

With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of our Bhagavan,

Dear Brothers and Sisters!

(A) Stories Updated

It has become conventional just to think of what Swami has said on the verandah to the boys because most of you may be anxious to know what He talks about. I think I updated all that. But two days back, I should inform you of what happened to keep you abreast of the times with the latest information! (This is the age of Telecom, you know, electronic media! We have got to be very fast in our communications!)

(1) Muslims Come To Prashanti Nilayam

Two days back you must have watched Muslims here in Prashanti Nilayam. Muslims wear a special white cap with embroidery. So from a distance you could make out that they are Muslims. My impression of Muslims is this - that they do not usually go to any temple. They are very, very rigid about it. They do not accept prasadam (blessed food), none whatsoever. (Thatís my observation, subject to correction by anybody.) They are very rigid and they donít attend any other discourses referring to other religions and faiths. That has been my experience so far.

But the moment I saw them in large numbers, I could not believe it! I had to put on a Ďquestion markí face. When Swami passed by me He said, "Come here. You distribute prasadam to those people." Because the fact which I could not swallow, the impression or prejudice which I had been entertaining over years, had got to be dispelled now.

So He made me distribute the prasadam to them. I had to bend everytime to distribute - me, the fellow who used to receive prasadam! To distribute is difficult! Eating is quite easy. Distribution one has to bend. OK. Itís Lordís Command. What can we do?

After completing this He said, "Did you distribute to everybody?"

"Yes, Swami."

"Did you eat any?"

I said, "I did not even smell!"

Then He said, "Thatís why they were adequate! Thatís why the stock was enough for distribution! Had you started eating, it would have ended with yourself!"

And then I said, "Swami, itís really wonderful, unbelievable to find Muslims here in Prashanti Nilayam."

He said, "Why not?"

"Why not? Because my experience goes that usually they donít go to any other temple and they are very rigid about it. Fundamentalists."

Then He said, "No, no, no, no." He didnít like my comment.

Then I said, in order to provoke a comment from Him, "Swami, they have got all sorts of hatred and anger towards Hindus. Therefore they do not attend any temple. They do not listen to Rama or Krishna, as far as I know."

Do you know what Baba said? "They may hurt anybody. They may have hatred or anger, whatever qualities they may have. Hatred and anger, they have to leave them outside to get into My Presence. They have to leave them outside. All your jealousies, all of your bickerings, all of your quarrels, you have to leave them outside at the gate and only then, enter and come to Me," He said.

It is really a very, very beautiful statement. We find Iran and Iraq never sail together. We also know Soviet Russia and the United States do not go together. India and Pakistan's relationship is universally well-known! Better not discussed! And even among Christians, the Catholics and the Protestants donít go hand-in-hand. Among Hindus, the Vaishnavites and Saivites, they donít see eye-to-eye with each other. If a Vaishnavite, a follower of Vishnu, happens to see a Saivite, a devotee of Shiva, he has to take bath immediately because it is inauspicious to look at the face of a devotee of Shiva! That has been the spirit of love between them!

Under these circumstances, is it not wonderful to find all living together, all sitting at one place, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, of all denominations, of all subsects, singing together the Glory of one God. Why? Bhagavan said, "All your hatred and anger, you have to keep it outside and then only get into this Mandir."

Yes. But my friends, as we go back, let us not pick up our baggage again and go! That is the caution I can tell you. All that baggage, we kept it outside. But while going back, we collect our baggage there! Let us see that we do not collect it again. Let us empty ourselves of all this prejudice and bias.

The second day also the Muslims were there.

And He said, "Why are they still there?"

He asked me. Who are we to tell? So I said, "Swami, how do I know?"

Then Swami said, "Look here, I constructed a school for them some time back Ė for Muslims, an Arabic school and they have the Primary School classes run over there. They want some extra rooms to be constructed now. So they have come for money."

"Oh, Swami, is that so?"

And then He said, "You can also again distribute prasadam there." Very big-sized, mega-size ladus! The others yesterday were only micro-size. These were mega! They were quite fine. So attractive. They were so fresh! But "Father lead us not to temptation!" was my prayer at that time.

I distributed all ladus and returned. And Bhagavan went there and spoke to those Muslims brothers. From a distance I could see smiles. I could also hear claps and loud cheers.

So when Swami came I said, "Swami, what is it? Why are they clapping like that?" He was very kind enough. He did not say, "How are you concerned?" My stars were good that day!

And you know what He said? "They want to construct a Kalyana Mantapam, a place where weddings will be performed for Muslims. They want a Community Hall where Muslims can perform the weddings there."

"Oh Swami, is that so?"

"They want to make it ĎAllah Sai Kalyana Mantapamí."

Weíve heard the name ĎAllah Sai, Moula Saií in bhajan songs. But I have not heard of a Kalyana Mantapam like this: ĎAllah Sai Kalyana Mantapamí.

"Oh, Swami, 'Allah Sai'?"


Then I asked, "So what are You going to do? What was Your response?"

Bhagavan said, "What response? I called immediately engineers and asked them to get it ready for them at the earliest. When they ask, I will do it immediately."

People speak of the unity of religions, the fellowship of faiths in high language. Well, here is Bhagavan who translates into action what all He stands for, what all He speaks about, by granting them schools, by constructing a Kalyana Mantapam for them. Well, thatís no ordinary thing. That I wanted to share with you.

Om Sai Ram

(2) "Black and White, Both Are In Me."

Another point I also wanted to share with you: Yesterday evening, the latest informationÖI give you the hot-hot things from the oven, I tell youÖone gentleman came for Bhagavanís darshan. I know him. I have heard him speak earlier.

Swami called out, "Come on, come on." That man came and had padanamaskar. And then Swami went on speaking about that gentleman: "Heís from Zambia. Heís running a school there. He and his wife, both of them work for the school. It is running very well. Most of them are native Africans. Most of them are Africans, black," He said.

How to continue the discussion is my job now?

"You mean to say black people?"

Then He said, "Hey! Donít talk like that!"

I purposefully did it. I know the danger involved! As life risk is not there because Swami is there, no problem. Had I said it in USA, I would have been finished!

"Black people?!?"

Bhagavan said, "Hey, donít say that! All are same to Me. All are same, black and white, no distinction."

Then I said softly, "We have differences, Swami. We have differences."

Then Swami said, "Thatís why you are suffering! Thatís why you are suffering since you have differences!"

Then Bhagavan said, "I donít have any difference because the black and white, both are in Me mixed. Both are in Me mixed. Both of them are mixed in Me. So thereís nothing like one being above the other. No difference. Both are in Me."

Thatís what Bhagavan said just yesterday evening.

Om Sai Ram

(3) "If You Are Both Happy and Healthy, I Am Happy."

To keep you again informed of the latest, this morning Swami was passing by and He spoke to one young man working there in the hospital. He was inquiring about the health of a VIP, a very important man. He was just asking him, "How is he?"

He said, "Heís alright. Heís alright."

Then Swami said, "Is he happy?"

That young man said, "Heís happy, Swami."

"Is he healthy?" He said.

"Swami, heís healthy."

"Oh." Then Swami walked a few steps and said, "Healthy man should be there. He should be healthy in the hospital. He should be healthy. But some of you are happy, but you are not healthy. But if you are happy and you are healthy, I am happy. If you are both happy and healthy, I am happy." Thatís what Bhagavan said.

Then He looked at me and I said, "What a subtle distinction you brought between the two: happiness and being healthy. Healthy and happy, they should go together."

Thatís the remark that Bhagavan made this morning.

Om Sai Ram


(1) On Fear of God

We often think of one important factor everywhere in our life. More than love for the Lord, most of us have fear of God. When we have this fear towards God, we cannot call it devotion. In fact as Bhagavan says, "God is dearer and nearer than oneís own parents." When God is so near and dear, nearer and dearer than our own physical parents, if we are afraid of Him, if we fear Him, can we call it devotion by any standards? No.

Some of the religions, some of the faiths, emphasize this factor: fear of the Lord. But Bhagavan Baba always says, "Do not fear God. Love God. Live in Love. God is Love. Love is God." Thatís what He says repeatedly.

Then why do we fear Him? We often fear Him because as Bhagavan says, "Why fear? Why fear at all?" The answer given by Bhagavan is "Where there is a mistake, there is fear." Because of the mistakes committed by us, we have fear. We fear everyone.

(2) Fear Takes Us To Worry

When there is no mistake or blemish, we donít need to be afraid of anybody. We can afford to be fearless all the time. All right. If we fear God, it does not end there. The fear takes you to another step. Thatís the reason why we have to cut it off or chop it off at the beginning itself, uproot it. Because if fear is allowed, it takes us to worry. Fear takes us to worry. We go on worrying. And what is worry according to Bhagavan? "Worry is mentally-created fear."

(My friends, I am not tired to repeat any number of times that these are all the teachings and sayings of Swami, nothing of my own because I am fortunate that I do not know anything else. I am very fortunate because I am free from confusion. I am not confused. I will not confuse you. Too much of reading confuses me, and you are left in a state of confusion confounded!)

So what is worry now? Mentally-created fear. Third question: How to be free from worry? First, what is fear? Second, what is worry? Third, how not to get worried? How not to worry. We worry, yes. How not to worry? We always want to find a solution for our worries. Solution for our worries is not a guarantee for total stop of the worries. No. We should find out this: how not to worry.

(3) How To Be Free From Worry

Bhagavan gave two answers, two points here: One, live in the present, live in the moment, live in existence. Because we live in the past, we worry. We want to live in the future, we worry. ĎAfter thirty years, who will take care of me?í ĎAfter twenty-five years, what will happen to me?í Anything may happen to you, but nothing will happen to the world.

So it is all unnecessary worry and anxiety. We get worried for nothing. Those that live in the past, those that live in future, they only worry. In order to see that we do not worry, the only solution, the answer provided by Bhagavan is, "To live with the moment. To live in existence. To live in the present. Thatís all."

And at one time He has gone to the extent of saying, "I do not know what worry is. Really I want to know how worry tastes, even now. Well, I donít know the taste of it." Thatís what Baba said. "I donít know what worry is. I donít know how you people worry. I want to know what worry is." Dear God wants to know what worry is! But sometimes He makes us get worried by not looking at us, by not taking the letters, yes. Shall I say He is a source of worry at the time of darshan line? Yes.

So, then Swami says, "I donít know what worry is. I donít worry anytime. The reason is things happen on their own accord. Things that are destined to happen, things that are sure to happen, they happen in their own way. By your worry, you are not going to change the scheme of things. By your worry, you are not going to change the destiny. You are not going to change the Will of God. Why worry? Let things happen. Thatís all. What is bound to happen, will happen. So, donít worry of the future. Donít worry of the past. Live in the present." That is one way of not worrying at all.

The second point He said how not to worry is this: If you are aware of your true Self, if I abide in the Self, if I know my true identity there that I am the Self, the Divine, the Atma, the spirit, the consciousness, I donít have to worry. Why? Because my true nature is consciousness. My true nature is the Divine which is changeless, which is not affected by changes of time; which is not affected by changes of circumstances or events that follow in sequential order. The Self does not know what jumps and bumps are, what ups and downs are, up on the peak, then down into the valley. The Self remains all the same. So, when once I know that I am the true eternal Self which is immortal, which is nectarine, which is eternal Truth, unpolluted, changeless, immovable, unshakable, deathless, you donít have to worry. That is the second point that Bhagavan said.

(4) On the Fear of Death

What is the highest fear that most of us have, or the worst of the fears? What is it that creates the highest intensity of fear amongst everybody of any country? That is death. Death is the greatest fear. It creates fear of the highest intensity. What does Bhagavan say? How to be free from the fear of death? What was His point?

Bhagavan said one point: "Death is the dress of life." When I change my body, I have to consider that I am changing my dress. Thatís all. When I change my dress and wear a new suit, a new suit straight from Sears or Pennyís or Mercuryís, from a department store like that in the USA, I donít have to cry. I should feel all the more happy.

So when you change your dress, you feel all the more happy because you look young enough. You draw the attention of everyone. You are more handsome. Therefore, death is the dress of life. This death is going to make you attain youth, change the worn-out body, the body which is rather tired out.

You are disgusted with that body. Why? You cannot walk due to the joint problems, arthritis. You cannot keep your neck straight and listen to the discourses because of spondilitis. We cannot get ourselves exposed to cold weather because of bronchitis. So arthritis, spondilitis, and bronchitis are the problems at this age. Memory fails. Vision fails. Hearing is not clear. We ourselves are disgusted with this body. What is the fun of continuing in that body?

So death is a celebration! Death is not an occasion of mourning. Death is not a moment of misery. Death is a joyful occasion. Death is to be welcomed because Ďold order changeth, yielding place to newí. This is the law of life. Therefore, we will never be victims to this fear of death when we are aware of the fact that we are going to look brighter than before, younger than before, more energetic than before, more handsome than before, more active and be more meaningful than before. So it has to be viewed in a different way because death is a celebration. It is a holy occasion. It is a sacred occasion. It is not inauspicious as most of us think.

(5) Socrates

Socrates was a Greek philosopher. Most of us must be knowing him, must have heard a lot of him. Bhagavan often quotes excerpts from Socratesí teachings. Socrates was sentenced to death, as many of you know. When Socrates was sentenced to death, do you know what he said? "After all, the body is going to die some day or other." Smiling he said this.

Socrates smilingly said: "After all, the body is going to die today or tomorrow. What if you are going to kill me? What if you are going to poison me? What if you are going to put me behind the bars? You have sentenced me to death, so what? Because death is certain. Some day or other, I am going to die. There is nothing great in killing me because I am going to be lost on my own!"

So he just laughed at it. And further Socrates said, "Death is a joke to me. Death is the biggest joke. I simply laugh at the death. Nothing to feel sorry about it." Thatís what Bhagavan has said about Socrates.

Further it is also said that this worry and fear go together constantly. Bhagavan has put it in a beautiful way: "The eternal Self, the Atma, the consciousness is immortal, amrita. But when this consciousness, being immortal, amrita, gets identified with the body, it suspects death. Therefore, it expresses itself in the form of delusion. Delusion or illusion is nothing but body identification. Body identification is a delusion. Identification with the consciousness is realization. Realization is identification with the consciousness. Identification with the body is illusion or delusion." Thatís what Bhagavan has said.

(6) Who Is a True Guru?

I am also happy to share with you an important factor regarding a true Guru or a true Teacher. Let me not use Ďteacherí because most of us are teachers, not worth the name! Because we work for our salaries. So the paid people are teachers by profession, not by choice, not by birth, not by right. Theyíre teachers of professional value, to eke out their living, to carry on their livelihood. We canít call them Gurus or Masters or Preceptors.

Preceptors, Prophets, Masters, Gurus are of that cadre who donít wait for revision of the salaries, who donít go on trying for extra income! Thatís what Bhagavan said: They have no body attachment, no worldly attachment, no worldly relationships, no bondage. They are men of sacrifice. Only such people are the Masters then and now and in future.

Who are they? Two points: no body attachment, no worldly bondage. They donít have any attachment towards the world. Nothing to do with the world, nor with repute or disrepute, profit or loss, praise or blame. They are not at all bothered with the world and its vagaries. Further theyíre not bothered about their own body. Such people are Gurus.

(7) What Is the Job of a Master or a Guru?

What does Swami say about Gurus? What is the job of a Master or a Guru? Bhagavan tells you, "The job of a Master is to make you go within, is to make you turn inward." Unfortunately we want outward guidance. We want outward messages. We want outward acknowledgement of our presence. We want outward smiles. We want outward receipt of our letters. So we want or we go by everything that is outward. But the job of a Guru is to make you turn inward. A Master makes you turn inward. We cannot afford to be outward all through our lives.

Bhagavan will make you pass through that stage even by force at one time or other. I say Ďby forceí why? He will attract you so much, taking letters every time, granting you interviews every time, smiling to make you feel that you are very important. He takes you to the top of the Himalayas! There He drops you! To such an extent that you begin to feel, ĎDid He ever talk to me? Does He know me? Why does He look like that? Why does He not recognize me? Canít He just give a smile to me? Why is He like that?í Life is like that.

The one who is so close for a long time is distanced later. Let us not take it negatively, my friends. Those who are distanced after having enjoyed nearness, they are in the second stage of evolution. They are in the higher stage of advancement. How, why do you say that? In the first stage, they enjoy physical nearness. In the first stage, they enjoy physical proximity. They enjoy all that is external: smiles, letters, interviews, and all that.

(8) God Does Not Have Any Anger

Now that Swami stopped talking to them, now that Swami stopped looking at them (not with any ill feeling because these feelings have no place in the Divinity), they begin to look within. God does not have any anger. Anger and Divinity do not go together. God is Love. Love and anger cannot go together. Heís not angry. Itís only our guilty conscience that makes us feel like that.

Some people come and tell me, "Ah! Swamiís not looking at me. Heís angry with me!" If I feel that God is angry with me, I think it is only a feeling of ego. Why do you think that you are that important as to be the cause of anger to God Himself? Heís not a small man! If you are really the source of anger to God, you are really very great! I donít think He will disapprove or be angry with simple, petty, little things, the trivia. After all, we are negligible, decimal, atomic, fractional.

So, to say that ĎGod is angry with meí is only our ego. "I have committed some mistake, so Swamiís not looking at me!" It is only our guilty conscience. The sense of guilt makes you say that. Letís not feel guilty. Guilty conscience is worse than guilt itself. Guilt is smaller, is small, while guilty conscience is big. The actual guilt will never make you punishable, but guilty conscience will make you go on worrying, go on feeling sad. That affects your performance, your life and it will tell on your face also because you will wear a long face as you feel guilty.

So, my friends let us not consider ourselves very important like that, thinking that ĎGod is angry with me. Heís avoiding meí as if this Incarnation is just for our purpose. Weíre not brothers of Ravana, Kitchaka and all that. Certainly not. Nor near cousin of Satin the Great! Why should we feel like that? So God has no anger. God has no prejudice. Nothing whatsoever.

(9) God Promotes Us To the Higher Step

So He stops talking to you. He avoids you. He doesnít draw you so near which all He did some time back, only to promote you forcefully into the higher step. Because we donít go to the next step.

When He does not talk to you, what do you do? You close your eyes! Sightless. When once we close our eyes, we feel Him within. We talk to Him from within. We feel Him. We try to realize Him. Externally, we search for Him; internally, we realize Him. Externally we talk to Him; internally we feel Him. Externally we enjoy Him; internally we are blissful. Externally we see His separateness; internally we observe and experience the oneness with Him. Internally we will enjoy and experience oneness with Him. Externally you get separateness, you get joy, which is only temporary.

So the second stage, it is a stage of progress, a stage of turning inward. Think of Him, feel Him, be one with Him. That is the job of a true Master. If he craves for publicity, if he craves for recognition, appreciation, claps, cheers, acknowledgement, advertisement, publicity and all that, he is not a true Master. Swami can go on saying, "Hello, hello, hello! How are you? How are you?" He doesnít do that. Why? Heís not for the mediocre thing.

Please remember my friends what Bhagavan has said: "I donít praise anybody on the face. I donít want anybody to praise Me. I donít praise you and I donít want you to praise Me. Why? I and you are one. Where is the need to praise anybody? When I am you, why should I praise myself? When you are Me, why do I need to praise you?"

Just understand the basic philosophy. If we donít have that understanding, we feel disgruntled, disappointed and frustrated. That happens between the first stage and the second stage. This is also unavoidable. First stage, nearness. Second stage, frustration. Third stage, inward path. That naturally happens. In the transition it happens.

(10) The Story of an Old Devotee

One gentleman came and met me a few days ago. Let me not mention his name because I havenít asked his permission. He was so close with Swami in those days. Swami stayed at their residence. He said, "But for three or four hours in a day, twenty-four hours I spent with Him, Sir. Not once, but spread over a decade and a half!"

He has been with Swami throughout. I was so happy. He was telling of the miracles of those days. He lost his mother. His is a royal family. He lost his mother and this gentleman, who is grown-up of course (He is just seventy-one years young!), in those days long back, he was talking with his father. Mother was no more. When both of them were talking in a public hall, please believe me, in the public hall there, mother who is no longer alive, who died long back, came out of that wall it seems. She came from the wall, sat there and spoke to both of them. She spoke to both of them, the father and the son, "How are you? What is with you?" and then vanished into the wall. He came and told me all this.

"Oh, so great! Ah, Sir, now what is the problem?" I asked.

"He stopped talking to me, Sir."

"He stopped talking to you?"

"Yes. He doesnít look at me." He has shown me the small letter from his daughter-in-law who wants some guidance from Swami, whether to go into surgery or medicine, MB or MS. She wants some guidance from Swami. "Sir, my daughter-in-law wanted me to hand over this letter. I am waiting for the last six days."

The person who was with Swami for twenty hours a day for over a decade and a half, today is in a position of not being able to hand a small chit to Swami!

I said, "Sir, really I share your feelings. I am so sorry."

Then he said, "No, Sir, I donít feel sorry."

"Why? Why donít you feel sorry, having enjoyed nearness so much, why donít you feel sorry? Why?" Had he said "I worry," I would have just consoled him for some more time. When he said, "I donít worry," well, I am at a loss now because I am prepared to console him, with all my points ready, being a teacher!

Well, he said, "I donít worry."

I said, "Why?"

"Sir, this is the time to think of the past. This is the time to think of those golden days. This is the time to think of the togetherness with Swami. This is the time to meditate on those beautiful days and moments of being with Swami. It is a time to recall, to bring back to memory, all the sweet, nectarine Vedic words that Bhagavan said in those days. I think this is sadhana, the spiritual practice, that I am supposed to do now."

I said, " Perhaps Swami sent you to let me know this message now because anything that comes to me will never go to waste!"

ABC: Anil Kumar Broadcasting Corporation! It will go, yes! You cannot keep it, anything like secret! Because I derive greatest joy in sharing with everybody. Yes! The moment Swami speaks to me there, I wait for a chance, then I run out there and tell somebody and come back. It is something like the cup which is full of coffee. It starts spilling out. When it is full, it spills out. Well, my cup, the heart, is so small that it spills out very soon! Or it has got some holes, and it just oozes out! I canít help it.

(11) Guru Has a Body To Take You Out of Body Consciousness

So my friends, a true Master talks from within. He wants us to turn inward. He communicates from inside. Further Swami goes to another extent, takes us to another step. What does He say? "The one with body feeling (that ĎI am the body, this size, my height, my weight, my chest, my complexion, my personality, the perfume that I use, the dress I put on..that body identification) - the one with body identification will consider his Guru as the one having a body. Youíll also take Him to be a person. Youíll also consider him to be an individual. Youíll also consider Him embodied, in the form of a body. Because you have got the body feeling, you think that your Guru also is the one with a body."

Now Swami says, "Guru has a body to take you out of body consciousness. No body consciousness. To make us lose this body consciousness, Guru has a body. To drive us out of this body feeling, to take us away from the body attachment, Guru has a body." See that. Who will tell that explanation?

And further He said, "The one who thinks of Guru, limiting him to this body, has no understanding of a Guru at all." Let us not think that Swami is only this much, no! Smallest of the small, biggest of the big. Itís just to please us, to make us happy that He has got that form. But He is actually formless.

The formless God has got a form to take us to that state of formlessness. And He smiles and talks with all affection, with all love and compassion, with attributes, in order to take us to that stage of attributelessness: from saguna, Ďattributesí to nirguna, Ďattributelessí state; from sakaara, Ďformí to nirakaara, Ďformlessí state. That is the transition, that is the journey that we have to pass through for which Guru has come down on earth in a human form. Thatís what Bhagavan has said in His discourse.

(12) The Teachings of a Guru Touch Your Heart and Not the Mind

Another point: Bhagavanís teachings appeal to our Heart, not the mind. Bhagavanís teachings touch our Heart, not the mind. How do you say? This is a statement of Swamiís. "The teachings of a Guru touch your Heart and not the mind." Why? Mind is emotional. Mind is passionate. Mind is rather ephemeral, ever-changing. Mind is momentary and gets transformed from moment-to-moment. Mind in sushupthi, in deep sleep, is non-existent. In thoughtless stage, mind vanishes. In a state of desirelessness, mind disappears. Mind exists because of thoughts. Mind took a form because of desires. When there is no thought, when there is no desire, there is no mind at all. But the Heart is eternal, Hridaya.

What is the Heart? I am not speaking of the heart of the department of cardiology in a general hospital or in a Super-Speciality Hospital. Please kindly go through the back issues of Sanathana Sarathi where Bhagavan mentions clearly, "Spiritual Heart is on the right side. The physical heart is on the left side." Baba said this. (Please believe me. I am accountable for every word I say. I know that. I can give you all the page numbers and sentences if you so want.)

"The spiritual Heart is on the right side."

"Oh, I see. What does it do?"

"The spiritual Heart communicates with the Sahasrara. There are chakras in our body. Sahasrara, located in the brain here, is the thousand-petalled one. The spiritual Heart establishes its connection with this Sahasrara through an important connection, the live wire, if you want to call it, called Sushumna. Sushumna is the live wire that connects the spiritual Heart to the Sahasrara, the thousand-petalled one, in the brain or the mind. Then this mind establishes contact with the rest of the body."

"So what, Swami. What is it? What do you want to convey?"

"Heart is the center of energy. Heart is the generator. Heart is the transformer. Heart is thermal power station. From this Heart, the energy flows through Sushumna and enters into Sahasrara. From there it is supplied to the body."

So the body is energetic not on its own. Even after death, the body is there but it is not active. The body does not receive energy. So body receives energy from Sahasrara, the thousand-petalled mind, head or the brain, and this Sahasrara gets energy from the Heart. So the Heart, the spiritual Heart, is the center of energy. That spiritual Heart is consciousness. That spiritual Heart is the spirit. That spiritual Heart is Atma. That spiritual Heart is our real being. It is our true nature. It is ever existent. It is eternal.

(13) Don't Have Doubts

So, this is spiritual Heart, yes! Bhagavanís teachings touch our Heart, not the head because when these teachings touch our head, we begin to decide, "Was what Swami said correct or not? Is it right or not?" Somebody said, "Sir, Swami saidÖIs it true?"

"When Swami said it, why do you doubt whether it is true or not? I donít understand. Can you say false also? Well, I donít know. Whether right or wrong?"

"Sir, Swami said it. Is it right or wrong?"

"When Swami says it, it is right!"

"Is it true or false?"

"It is true! Why do you doubt it?"

We doubt it because when the message goes to our mind, the mind tries to judge. It tries to discriminate. It tries to decide. But when the message goes straight to the Heart, it seeps in. It goes in deep, something like blotting paper that absorbs ink; something like sand into which water sinks. When there is heavy rain, because of the water that falls on the ground along the seashore or any sandy area, it seeps in deeply. It is absorbed completely.

Similarly, Guru's message, when it touches our Heart, it is absorbed. When it goes to the head, mind decides, judges, goes on thinking. All teachersí teachings touch our mind. But Guruís teachings reach our Heart. The teachings of a Guru reach our Heart, whereas the teachings of a teacher, they just touch our head, awaiting our discrimination what we want to decide.

(14) A Real Guru Will Always Speak About Your True Nature

Another point is also this: A real Guru will always speak about your true nature. My friends, what is it that is common in all the Sathya Sai discourses? I believe that there are 31 volumes now of Sathya Sai Speaks, 10 volumes of Vahiniís, 10 volumes of Summer Course discourses. 20 + 31 = 51. All these books, all these hundreds of discourses, what is the common thread? Only one thing: revealing our true identity, that you are not the body, that you are not the mind.

You are Atma. You are consciousness. You are the spirit. That is the only message, the underlying current, running through all these 51 volumes, all these hundreds of discourses. In every talk, He lays emphasis on this: Divyatmaswarupalara! Embodiments of the Divine! That you are an embodiment of the Divine, that you are Atma. In every talk He necessarily mentions this because it is the quality of a Guru. The highest and the greatest teaching of a Guru is to remind us of our nature, to help us to find our true identity.

Bhagavan goes one step further. "Forgetfulness of our true nature is death. Remembrance of our true nature is life or birth." In order to live our lives well, not simply like any other machine, but to live well, let us live in the full awareness, in the constant remembrance of our true identity.

(15) What Is 'Upasana', According To Bhagavan?

What Bhagavan says is this: A true Guru tells you only one method. He does not show you so many methods. He does not confuse you. He does not burden you. He does not strain you. He does not allow you to be under stress and strain and effort, exertion, exortion, no, no. No exortion, no exertion. A simple thing, only one formula: Upasana.

What is Upasana according to Bhagavan Baba? Upasana is the experience of our true nature in the waking state, in spite of the objects around and our senses being alert.

In the waking state, our senses are active. I see all of you. I hear all of the sounds. All objects are there. My senses are alert, quite receptive, sensitive, because this is the waking state. In this waking state of senses being alert with the objects around, if I still manage to be aware of my true nature, that is called Upasana. Upasana: upa Ė near; asana Ė sitting, comfortable sitting. 'Comfortable sitting near our true Self, near our true nature, near God withiní, that is Upasana.

But the traditional, conventional meaning of Upasana is so confusing that you give up making any attempt because after starving for 15 days, getting up at midnight for 15 days - well, in the meantime we get exhausted thatís all, leave alone realization. Impossible! Upasana is not a conventional meaning that Bhagavan Baba gives you. He comes forward with a new approach.

(16) Godís Compassion Has No Limits

Then another point: Somebody said, "Baba, where are Babaís Feet? Where are they? ĎO Bhagavan, to Thy Feet I offer my humble salutations. My humble salutations to Thy Lotus Feet.í Where are they, Bhagavan, where are they?"

"Your Feet are spread everywhere." The speaker went on speaking like that. Swami was observing him, letting him go to whatever extent he would go. And then that man said, "Swami, Your compassion is so great, Your Love is so vast like that of an ocean!" Like that of an ocean, as deep as an ocean.

Then Swami said, "Enough. Sit down." Enough. This is His remark: "Why do you say ĎSo vast as an ocean?í No. More than that. Why? Ocean has got its limits. Ocean has got its boundaries. But Godís compassion has no limits. Godís compassion has no boundaries. It is infinite. It is so vast. So do not compare it with that of an ocean." Thatís what Bhagavan has said.

Therefore Guruís teaching is another thing. My attempt is this: to make us realize in terms of Swamiís message, His own message. He should help us to understand His own message. We can understand His message through His message only, or else I go on interpreting in my own way and we can find ourselves in confusion. Bhagavan said, "You can see the sun in the sunlight only. You can see the moon in the moonlight only."

Similarly, you can understand Sai's message through His Message only, not through your message or my message. Ours is Ďmassageí, not message, Ďmassageí! Letís not try to interpret Swami at all! Because we are the contemporaries of the living, loving God. When He is there to explain every little thing in detail, why should we explain? Why should we interpret? It is not necessary.

(17) Total Passive Surrender

And what is Guruís teaching, as Bhagavan has put it?

"Total passive surrender. Total passive surrender to the magnetic Divinity within." What beautiful words! Divinity is magnetic. It means Ďjust like a magnet that attractsí. We attract people, of course, depending upon oneís own standard. Objects attract. All objects have got this attraction. All human beings have attraction. It is nothing but magnetism. Thatís what Swami has been talking about in the recent discourses, "You are the magnet. You are the computer. You are the heat. You are the energy." Thatís what Swamiís talking about recently.

So you are the magnet because you attract everybody, donít you? Yes. Or else we donít have friends at all. We canít continue to live in society. We live in society because we attract some people, like-minded people. ĎBirds of same feathers flock together.í We attract our own people. Thatís right. So it is magnetism.

Now, the Guruís teaching is "passive total surrender to the magnetic Divinity within". That Divinity, which is magnetic, to that Divinity, we have to surrender totally, passively.

Why not actively? Why not? If you are active, you may not be active later. If you are active, your ego may function. If you are active, the spirit of ĎI-nessí, the body identity, may raise its ugly head. When it is passive, the ĎI-nessí is gone. There is total surrender to the spirit within, to the Self within. Total surrender, that is the job of a Guru. Thatís what Guru does.

(18) Constant Integrated Awareness

"Swami, why all this? Canít you give me liberation, awareness immediately? Youíre such a powerful God. Why should I do all this? Iíll sit in front of You. Just bless me with awareness. Iíll go back. My flight tickets are reserved. Yes, I have got some round-trip tickets. I can go back. No problem. Please give me awareness."

Bhagavan tells you, "Awareness is not given. Awareness is not taught. Awareness is not inherited like properties. Awareness is not imported or exported or manufactured. Awareness is to be realized as that which is already existing. Awareness is already existing." That awareness is already there: Chit bhava, Chit meaning awareness. That awareness is already there. Our job is to realize it. Our job is to feel it. Our job is to be alert, constant integrated awareness, CIA as Bhagavan says. Constant integrated awareness, we have got to be aware of that. Thatís what Bhagavan tells.

Now He gives one example: "A Guru is like a doctor. He gives you a prescription. You have to take the medicine according to the prescription. You cannot ask the doctor: ĎTake the medicine on my behalf. You have written the prescription, please take three tablets a day, four times the mixture. Iíll be alright tomorrow.í How can you be alright when he takes the medicine?" So, awareness is not to be realized by the Guru on your behalf. No. He makes you to realize the Divinity within.

In this direction, we have some more points to talk of, to think about the role of a Guru, how the Guru brings transformation in everyone of us. I think this is the most interesting and important topic to every Sai devotee because mind sometimes wavers. Mind is sometimes unsteady. So we will continue with this subject next week.

Thank you very much for listening with rapt attention. Thank you.

Anil Kumar closed his talk with a bhajan and the prayers:

Asato Maa Sad Gamaya
Tamaso Maa Jyotir Gamaya
Mrityormaa Amritam Gamaya

Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti.

Loka Samastha Sukino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukino Bhavantu
Loka Smastha Sukino Bhavantu

Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti


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