Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at
August 1, 1999
This is the Sunday Satsang held on
the first floor of the North Indian Canteen on 01-08-99 given by
Topics: Why God incarnates; How Baba prompts us from within; Kodaikanal stories;Renouncing doership and enjoyership; Be aware
what to ask Swami for; Stories of Swami’s protection and glory.
Thanks to Swami for having brought us safely to this morning's
satsang. Dear friends, I would like to draw your attention to one
foremost, important point. In Bhagavad Gita, in the fourth chapter
entitled Jnana Yoga, this is the only chapter that refers to the
need for an Avatar. I repeat. In Jnana Yoga, the fourth chapter of
the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna speaks of the need for an Incarnation.
God has to explain why He has taken birth in a human form. He
offers an explanation, the need for Incarnation. Perhaps in the
other chapters you do not find such a thing. It is only in this
fourth chapter, Jnana Yoga, that you find such a declaration or
pronouncement - an explanation about the need for an Avatar.
What does He say there? The first point in connection with the
need for an Incarnation or Avatar as mentioned in the Bhagavad
Gita is this: to protect the pious people and to remove or kill or
annihilate the wicked. The first purpose of an Incarnation is to
offer protection to the pious people, the noble people, the good
people, and to annihilate, destroy or kill wicked people. This is
the first point in the preamble of the Incarnation, the first
objective of an Incarnation. (I do not want to put a whole sloka
in Sanskrit because I know that most of us do not know it,
including my humble self here. I only know the working knowledge
of Sanskrit. Eighty percent of Telugu has its origin in Sanskrit,
80%. There is no pure Telugu as such in what I speak. So I have
only a working knowledge, but I do not want to after all quote
anything to express my scholarship or anything. I do not have such
desire.) So, the first purpose of an Incarnation is to protect
pious people and to annihilate the wicked people.
But Bhagavan Baba, the modern Avatar, revised it. My friends, my
idea is to bring to your attention how the present Avatar is an
improvement over the past Avatar. It is not only a continuation,
but an improvement. Because ways have changed, times have changed,
people have changed, psychology has changed as we are in the
electronic space age. God cannot continue with His antique,
outdated mode of functioning. He too needs to be modern,
ultra-modern. So, how does Baba improve on Himself as an
Incarnation? How does He improve Himself?
He has said that, all right, I will protect the pious people.
First point, OK. Same as before. Same as Lord Krishna said earlier.
I can give you My word on the same thing. But the second point,
that is to annihilate or kill the wicked, this I will not do now
because it is quite sure, excepting Me, nobody would remain here!
Excepting Swami nobody would find a place here and He is fully
aware of it! After all, He needs to have so much work done and so
He wants everybody, each one of us here. If He were to follow the
second principle and kill the wicked, annihilate the wicked,
destroy the wicked, then He has no other job than to remain all
alone! So He must make a kind of amendment. Most of you must have
known that the Indian Constitution also makes all sorts of
amendments repeatedly. So even the Divine Constitution has to be
amended to suit our convenience and to give Himself enough of a
job to do: transforming us all! How has He amended it? He said,
OK, it is all right that I said I would protect the pious people
in the past as Lord Krishna which I declared in that sacred text
Bhagavad Gita. It is true. But the second thing is, instead of
finishing off people, instead of killing people, instead of
destroying wicked people, what I want to do now is to transform
I can give you umpteen number of examples how transformation is
wrought in several of the lives of the devotees we know, in many,
many of the lives of devotees. The other day He was telling, "I
don't ask anybody, but people liberally come forward and
contribute their mind, their kind and other ways." Swami does not
stretch out His Hand to anyone participating in His mission. He
does not ask anybody, but people come on their own and do this and
On this day I just want to recall one incident which I do not know
whether I said earlier. One devotee from London came to Kodaikanal.
He brought with him fifty beautiful gold pens, 24-carat gold, real
gold pens! And he wanted to give those to Swami but he did not
dare to do it. Well, I was a greater fool in those days. Suddenly
he came to me and asked, "Mr. Anil Kumar, why don’t you please
tell Swami that I brought gold pens to be distributed to the boys."
I took my time. I did not act immediately because I did not want
to take any divine risk. But ultimately I picked up some courage.
That day, immediately after breakfast, I went close to His table
and started speaking, "Bhagavaning" slowly and softly, to draw His
Immediately He said, "What! What do you want to say? Why are you
here?" I said, "Swami, one Sai brother from London has brought
gold pens." Immediately He said, "So what!" (Anil:)"Swami, he
wants to give them to You." He said, "I don't want them. I don't
write, so I don't want." (Anil:) "Not that, Swami. He wants You to
distribute them to the students." (Swami:)"Oh! Now I understand:
You want them. You take the pens," He said. "Now I understand. You
are just prolonging the discussion, extending point after point,
with an idea to have the pens. Then you have it for yourself." Now
the cat is out-of-the-bag.
Then somehow I said, "No, no, no, not that Swami. I just wanted to
tell You that he is here." And He immediately smiled and said, "You
know why he brought gold pens. He thought that he could bribe Me
like that. He thought that I can be corrupted by gold pens. He
thought that I would grant him an interview by this act.
Understand that these things will never work. Nothing doing. And
if you ask for the second time, you will also join him outside the
bungalow." Then I could understand what it is, how serious the
Why I am telling you is that we cannot draw the attention of Swami
by these means, no, no, no. Instead He prompts us from within. As
we heard on that Guru Pournima Day, Mr. Puri came from Indonesia
all of a sudden and started announcing that "I am here freely
gifting 10 crores for the construction of Sri Sathya Sai Music and
Fine Arts College." Baba never asked him. Baba never told him His
plan to start a Music College. He never told anybody. Supposing
that Swami announces, I want to start a Music college, then you
can take a chance and I can take a chance. Both of us can take a
chance. A third person may grab the chance. But it is not so. He
did not announce. He did not tell anybody. How that man came out
and started telling, "I want to give 30 crores for Baba’s Music
College." Who said there's a Music College? Where's the need? Who
This is an instance, my friends, to tell you how Swami works from
within. Swami works from within. No advertisement. No publicity.
No announcement. No program as such. Nothing like:"These are the
programs for which you can liberally come forward and participate."
There is nothing like a railway timetable or an Indian Airlines
schedule. Nothing whatsoever. People feel the prompting from
within. They liberally come forward to do it. Is it not enough to
say that a kind of transformation is brought about from within. It
is not told. It is not dictated. It is not commanded. He just gets
things done, working from within.
I should also tell you some other instance. When Bhagavan was
there in Kodaikanal, He wanted the boys to have some kind of a … I
should say what they put on the lips…Not lipstick! (Anil jokes:)
For boys, not lipstick. Not yet. We have not started to play like
that so far. He wanted to give some kind of oily thing here (patting
his face) … Oh, mmm, something like that…because He felt they are
in a cold place, in a cold climate, so He wanted them to apply
cold cream or something like that. He started looking at everybody,
saying, "You need cold cream. Your skin is dry." He was commenting
Believe me, friends, as we were just talking to the boys, suddenly
one man came up with fifty tubes of this cold cream, to be given
one to each. Swami just looked at me. I could not tell the man the
discipline here. I said, "Swami, you did not tell him outwardly.
You told him from within. You made him bring all those cold creams
to be distributed to the boys." This is an instance to show how
Swami works from within. Yes. It is really fantastic. He does not
It is always the beginning of summer when Swami visits Kodaikanal.
In fact one day after arriving there, He was remarking that it was
the beginning of summer. He said, "It is the season of mangoes."
Most of us like mangoes very much. I was feeling, "See, what is
this? Wherever can we get mangoes here in this hill station? Had I
been there, I should have been at my native place so that I could
have had a litre of mangoes, lots of them! Believe me, the very
next day, we got four basketfuls of mangoes! Immediately He came
to me and said, "Wherefrom the mangoes came?" I said, "They came
from You!" Then Bhagavan smiled and said, "You wanted to eat
mangoes. Therefore, I had to bring them here!" You see how things
happen. The moment you want it, immediately you get it there.
Last year somehow there had been a number of devotees accompanying
Swami, about eighty members. They came with their families. The
boys were feeling so badly that they did not have their
photographs taken with Swami: individual photographs taken with
Swami and each student separately. It is a life treasure to have
such a photograph with Bhagavan, an individual photo. It is not a
small thing. It is more important than our PhD degree. It is not
an easy thing to get you know. The boys said to me, "Sir, we do
not have photos with Him. What to do?" I said, "What to do? What
can I do?" Then one day I told them, "Be Ready! Be well-dressed!"
They said, "Sir, what dress shall we wear?" I told them, "Swami
presented us with nice T-shirts with Prashanti emblems and "Om Sri
Sai Ram" written on it. OK, you wear all the T-shirts presented by
Bhagavan. The rest of the drama we shall see how we can play it."
All of them were well-dressed with the T-shirts and the pants
presented by Swami to all of us. They were such nice fellows.
Every fellow was looking quite handsome. So they were all seated
there. Swami came out. "What is this? Exhibition! All are wearing
T-shirts?" Then He looked at me. He said, "You are also in
T-shirt!" I answered, "Oh, yes, Swami. Why not! You gave me a
T-shirt. Why should I not wear it!" (Swami:) "Mmmm…This is all a
drama you have done, I know." (Anil:) "Yes, Swami." He asked,
"Why?" (Anil:) "Swami, we do not have any individual photographs
this time. During this trip we did not take any photographs with
You. So I only suggested that we should be dressed like this so
that we can take individual photographs." Then He spiritually
forced, religiously forced everyone of us to have an individual
photograph taken with Him! The boys were very, very happy about
it. That desire, that prayer to have photographs with Swami was
fulfilled in that inscrutable, wonderful way that day there in
Kodaikanal. That is Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
On another day He was just talking to everybody. He said, "In ten
minutes a devotee will come. His car broke down on the way. The
poor fellow! He is late. Get some food ready for him." That is
Bhagavan Baba. My friends, we could give any number of
illustrations like this, only to convince ourselves that Baba is
within, that Swami works from within. We need not be especially
told or anything like that. So, the first declaration in the
Bhagavad Gita is just rather an improved version, made latest by
Bhagavan Baba declaring, "I protect good people. I transform the
wicked people. I bring about a change in bad people."
I do not know whether I said it earlier, but it is worthwhile
hearing this story any number of times. From where did I hear it?
From that very small booklet with the violet cover. It is the
experience of devotees from East Africa. It is a small booklet.
Anybody can read it. A beautiful book. And it is available
outside. (I am not a bookseller for your information. I do not get
any commission. No. Just for your information, to establish the
credibility and authenticity of my statements.) I tell about this
also, not that you do not believe me. Being a teacher myself for
three decades and a half or more, I have got to equip myself with
There in this small booklet a miracle is mentioned. Two devotees
from East Africa came here. These two gentlemen have their own
special habits of that country: These two chaps used to go to bed
only after having some sips of whiskey. After having some whiskey
only then they could get to sleep. Otherwise it was not possible.
Their philosophy was, "Whiskey is not risky," and also,"Liquor
acts quicker." They believed like that. Poor chaps! While coming
here, they bought and brought a big bottle of Scotch whiskey with
them. They did not know the rules of this place. Poor fellows! It
was not their mistake. We know most people rightly only take water
outside. They have finished with any such habits. These are the
only chaps who came here with a Scotch whiskey bottle. They did
not know that drinking is prohibited. It was their first time
here. It was their first visit here. I am not telling that they
were guilty. I do not call them sinners. They did not know the
rules. That is all.
So they came with their bottle. They were given a nice
accomodation in Round Block Three. Fine. They had morning darshan.
Good. And attended bhajans. Nice. Then they had a good lunch in
the foreigners’ canteen with pie and pizza or whatever they liked.
Later they had evening darshan, and participated in the evening
bhajans. They ate evening supper also. Finally they came to their
room and they wanted to retire, to take rest, to go to sleep. But
they cannot get to sleep unless they have their drink. So what to
do? They opened their suitcase and brought out that whiskey
bottle. They had two glasses there in their room. They kept both
the glasses in front of them, opened the bottle and filled these
two glasses with whiskey. They started drinking. What happened?
Instead of whiskey, they could only taste water. Only water! They
were very surprised! They did not want water! They wanted whiskey.
They had purchased some very costly whiskey! Anytime when the
whole whiskey becomes water, it is an unimaginable failing!
Then one fellow said, "No, no, no. We have not emptied these
glasses in the beginning. There must have been some water already
there. Let us empty these two glasses and clean them now. So they
just poured out the contents of the glasses and washed the
glasses. They made sure they were empty this time. Then they
filled the two glasses with whiskey again. Now when the two
glasses were full, they started to drink. Again, water! They were
pretty much disgusted and disappointed. What is all this? What is
going on here? They did not know the rules or anything of this
place. They were wondering, "Has whiskey become water here, or has
water become whiskey? It would be so nice if water also becomes
whiskey, isn’t it?" They were thinking thus because like this a
lot of strange things were happening. Then one of the men
immediately thought, "Why not have it straight from the bottle?
Why use the glasses! Pour the bottle straight into the mouth!" So
he kept it straight upright and started drinking. But only water
again! He felt so badly at this place. What is going on here???
OK. Somehow they spent that night and then they got up in the
early hours of the morning and sat in the darshan lines. To their
panic, they got the first line! Why to their panic, I shall tell
you: When we feel we need to see Swami, we get the last line. When
we are afraid of Him, we get the first line, isn't it? So those
two got the first line. All right, they sat there and our
mischievous Bhagavan started walking towards them, stood in front
of them and said, "How are you?" "We are fine, Swami," they
responded. "How about last night? ‘Cheers! Cheers! Cheers!
Cheers!’ They were dumbfounded! They could only say, "Oh, Swami,
Swami!" Then He said, "See, you should not drink like that. It is
a very bad habit. So I converted it into water. Now you understand
what happened!" So Bhagavan is here to transform people, to bring
about a change in our lifestyle, in our life pattern, not to
annihilate or kill totally. That is the one thing that is
mentioned in Jnana Yoga, the fourth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita.
Then there is another thing also said in the fourth chapter of the
Bhagavad Gita. This is also stated: Why the Lord should incarnate
in a human form. Why? The reason is that when righteous conduct
and life is totally gone, then in order to bring back or restore
righteousness, to restore the dharma, God will take the form of a
human being as an Incarnation of God. He comes down in a human
form in order to restore the dharma which has been neglected or
which has not been adhered to or followed. Then the dharma will be
restored because He has come down with human form. "Whenever
dharma declines, and righteousness is not observed, whenever there
is a breach in the servitude of the code of conduct, I incarnate
Myself." That is what the Lord has said in the Bhagavad Gita.
What does Swami say here? The same thing. Here there is a very big
point. The first thing is that He has said the same thing. My
friends, my idea is when once we read the Bhagavad Gita from the
background of Sai literature, we will appreciate it much more than
before. If we read the Bhagavad Gita straight away, it appears as
if it is a heavy volume, something mechanical or a routine. You
are in a hurry to finish it off because you have to go to your
office. Instead, in full knowledge of Sai’s message, if you read
the Bhagavad Gita, you will enjoy the taste of it much more than
ever before. The same thing Swami has said. What did He say? As I
said earlier, He is an extension of the Bhagavad Gita. It is not
repetition. What does He say?
First stanza: You know, in the summer, the water tanks run dry and
the wells go dry. It is hot summer and there is no water supply.
Then suddenly there is a shower of rain. When there is a
continuous downpour of rain after the severe hot-hot summer, how
do you welcome it? Yes, you feel very happy about it because you
are in need of water. The tanks are dry. The wells are dry. There
is no supply of water. Then there is a downpour of rain! Ah! It is
most welcomed! That is the first stanza.
Then in the second stanza, what He has said is this: Imagine a
fellow who is fasting. He has not been eating. He lacks food.
Suddenly you supply him with nuts and sweets and hot items and
cakes. Oh yes, and a milkshake and ice creams too! How does he
like it? That fellow has not been eating anything for the last
couple of days not because of sickness but because of the
non-availability of foodstuffs. He could not have food for some
reason or other. Suddenly he finds delicious items in front of
him. Just imagine the situation. Ah! Anyone in his place would
jump for joy!
Then the third situation: There is a couple who has no children at
all. They are very rich, affluent people. They have property
enough for four generations! But they have no children. Suddenly
God blesses them with a good son, a really good son. If they had
had a wicked and horrible son, he would have finished off the
property right in front of their eyes! But no, this boy is an
extremely good son. So, how do they feel? The couple will be
In the same way, on this earth in which the Vedas and the dharma
is on the decline, Baba incarnates Himself. Wherever this dharma
is on the decline, Bhagavan Baba takes birth in this human form
time and again, previously in Shirdi and right now in Puttaparti.
These slokas are quite analogous to what is meant and to what is
stated in Jnana Yoga, the fourth chaper of the Bhagavad Gita. Here
He has explained it more elaborately, more extensively, and more
convincingly with some beautiful examples and additions. That is
the beauty of it.
Furthermore Bhagavan often explains in His discourses something
which is plainly stated in the Bhagavad Gita. Why are we unhappy?
What is unhappiness due to? This is very well explained in
JnanaYoga. The unhappiness is due to this body, this birth, this
human life. Why do we have this body? It is because of past
actions or karma. The body, this human birth or janma, is because
of karma, the past action. All right, why has there been past
actions or karma? Why? It is due to our attachments, our likes and
dislikes, raga and dwesha, attachment and hatred, union and
separation, and attachment to the world. Therefore we have done so
many actions in the past. But why is there this raga and dwesha?
Then comes the answer. It is due to our ajnana or ignorance. But
why do we have this ignorance or ajnana? It is because this ajnana
or ignorance has been there for long. Since when? Since a long
time. Can you tell me since how long? No.
The Bhagavad Gita explains this nicely. I will tell you once
again. Being a teacher, I do not mind repeating because each time
I repeat I become more thoroughly convinced of what Krishna has
said. The first point: Why this suffering? The answer is the body
or human birth, janma. The second question: Why this body or
janma? The answer is because of our previous actions or karma. The
third question: Why this karma or actions? This is due to
attachment to the world, raga and dwesha, likes and dislikes,
attachment and hatred. The fourth question: Why do this raga and
dwesha exist? Why all this attachment and hatred? It is due to our
lack of discrimination or aviveka. There is no discrimination.
Then why do we lack this discrimination? This is the next
question. The answer is that it is due to our ignorance or ajnana.
Next question: Why do we have this ignorance or ajnana? The answer
is: It has been there for long. Since when? Since infinity. What a
beautiful explanation, step by step by step. My friends, this
ajnana or ignorance has been there over the ages.
Now Baba tells us the answer now. There the Bhagavad Gita ends.
The Bhagavad Gita ends by saying that you cannot say since when
ignorance dawned upon you. No. But Swami explains clearly by
saying, All right, my boy, why are you bothering to know since
when ignorance dawned? Be clear. Ignorance is age-old. Instead of
worrying about the age of ignorance, try to solve this ignorance.
Try to be out of this ignorance or ajnana.
Bhagavan gives a simple example: I go into a cave. That cave is
pitch dark. I call somebody there. "Hey, it is dark here!" He
answers, "Yes, sir!" I ask, "How dark is it?" Again he answers,
"It is pitch dark!" Then I ask, "Since when?" His answer: "I do
not know." So I say, "Then call your grandfather. Bring him." He
responds, "Yes, alright."
The grandfather comes. Again I ask, "Hey! Is it dark here?" The
grandfather answers, "Yes." So I continue, "How dark?" He answers,
"Pitch dark!" My next question, "Since when it has been so dark
here?" The grandfather’s response is, "Since before I was born!"
So it has been dark since ages. Nobody can say.
Then one little boy says, "Sir, why are you bothered about this
darkness? Don’t you have a match box with you? Don’t you have a
candle with you? Come on and light this candle! The darkness may
be 20 years old or 30 years old or 100 years old or even 1000
years old! The whole darkness gets dispelled immediately the
minute you light the candle."
This is an extension of Bhagavan Baba’s interpretation to the
Bhagavad Gita. The Bhagavad Gita stops there and Swami answers
here. Continuity. It is a work of continuity to eternity. The
story of an Incarnation is one of continuity to eternity. That is
how Swami explains to us. So let us not be bothered by anything of
the past. Most of us suffer when someone says, "Ah, Sir, I am not
a good man. I was very bad. I did so many bad things earlier. I am
a sinner." Nobody is a sinner. That is all. Why? You tell me who
is a sinner based on the actions or the akarma. The actions depend
upon the circumstances and the time. And so you are not really the
doer. The Bhagavad Gita clearly explains this.
Really I am so lucky this year because there in Sri Sathya Sai
University they just started a new course, a post-graduate diploma
in Indian Culture and Philosophy. We have eight students
participating in this program. Two have finished their M.Tech. Two
finished their M.Sc. Two completed their M.B.A And two completed
their M.A. in English. All of the eight boys are very good boys.
Somehow Baba planned it that these boys came and asked me: "Sir,
why don’t you give one or two classes to us?" Without any second
thought I said, "Why not? I can simply try." (Basically I am a
botanist or a student of botany. But as they asked me, I thought,
"Let me try.")
Now what I did was I collected the Bhagavad Gita commentary books
written by several different authors. I brought all the books and
I also bought audio cassettes and I kept Swami’s Gita Vahini
there. I started preparing transparencies, slides and charts
because it should be at the post-graduate level. I do not know how
the boys enjoyed the class. But I am sure that I enjoyed the
Bhagavad Gita even more that the boys. In fact, I was very much
ashamed why I had not read it so far. I felt humiliated and
insulted. The moment when I read it, I wondered why I did not
study this until now. Why did I not study this for so long before?
In order to teach in the classroom I must prepare. I cannot walk
into the class as though I am going into the canteen! I must
prepare first and so I looked into each and every sloka. Believe
me, my friends, I see Swami in them. I feel Swami talking to me. I
feel Swami explaining the intricacies of every sloka and I start
to recall whatever Baba has said before. It is in this connection
that I want to bring a few instances to your attention.
The Bhagavad Gita: what has our Swami said? Simply He improves on
it and He gives some beautiful examples. The Bhagavad Gita has
said that when once you feel that you are the doer (having
thoughts like "I have done it" or "I am responsible for that"),
this "I-ness" or feeling of doership (having thoughts like "I am
doing it") is the cause for all sin. If you think that you are not
the doer, then there is no sin at all (holding the thought "I am
not the doer"). So it is this doership feeling that makes you feel
a sinner. This doership makes you feel arrogant and egoistical.
When once you give up this doership idea, yes, only then you are
great! Only then there is no more idea of ego. That is what is
called sannyasa yoga. Sannyasa yoga means the process of giving up
this sense of doership. So renounce and say, "I am not the doer."
The second point is enjoyership. There is a second aspect called
enjoyership which means having such thoughts or feelings like "I
constructed this house. Let me stay here" or "I did so much work
in serving Thee. Let me get padnamaskar" or "I am the convenor.
Let me stay in the first seat in the first row so that Swami will
conveniently…" (Swami may conveniently avoid you!) Enjoyership is
the second point: "I have done it, so I must enjoy the fruits."
This enjoyership has to be given up.
Giving up enjoyership is called karma yoga. Giving up doership is
called sannyasa yoga. The mixture of these two is karma sannyasa
yoga, the sixth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita. The sixth chapter in
the Bhagavad Gita is a combination of karma yoga plus sannyasa
yoga, called karma sannyasa yoga. Karma yoga means giving up
enjoyership, meaning "I do not crave the fruits of my work. I do
not work for rewards. I do not work in anticipation of certain
results." So, giving up enjoyership is karma yoga. Giving up
doership is sannyasa yoga. The combination is karma sannyasa yoga.
Here are a few examples: One man told in the darshan lines,
"Swami, my son got a job." Swami replied, "Ah ha, good. Where?" So
innocently our God asks, "Oh, he got a job? Where?" The answer
comes, "Swami, he got a job in Bangalore." Again Swami, "Ah ha."
He proceeded on and then He returned and looked deeply into the
man’s eyes. "You got him the job there?" Swami asked. The man
answered, "Yes." Swami continued, "You said, ‘My son got the job.’
Did you get him the job there? Who gave him the job there?"
"Swami…" Swami goes on, "I gave him the job, you understand. That
fellow is not worthy of the job. That fellow is not worthy of the
job. In fact, I am responsible for the job there in Bangalore. You
understand me?" He only meant let us not claim doership and let us
not be attached to the rewards or the fruits of our work or karma.
Let us not claim enjoyership. That is what Bhagavan is saying.
One other example: Some people from some other place came and
asked, "Swami, we are all waiting for your arrival here. You need
not come." Swami responded, "Oh! You are waiting for Me yet I need
not come! Oh, I see." Then Swami started telling them, "Shall I
tell you what preparations you made there? Every day about fifty
seva dal come and they clean the entire premises. I know. One day
they removed all the thorny bushes around. That man came, this man
came." He started giving the postal addresses of the people. Then
can you say that you are the doer? Can you say that you are the
enjoyer? Can you claim that "I have done it"? Knowing fully well
that Swami does everything, can I think that I have done this?
There is one more simply charming story. One lady from Kenya came
here by the name of Mrs. Rangaswamy. When she was coming over
here, some office bearers there in Kenya asked, "Look here, please
get some of the latest books from Puttaparti, at least fifteen of
them." She said, "OK, after all, Swami books I would love to carry
back. I would love to bring them back for you. Why not?"
She went to the bookstall in Prashanti Nilayam and collected the
fifteen books and made them into a beautiful package. When she
went back to Kenya, she was about to hand over this parcel to the
office bearers when she decided to open the packet. Please believe
me! When she opened the packet, in every book there was vibhuti!
In every book, in all the fifteen books, vibhuti! In some of the
books, there was also sandal powder. In other books, there was
also tumeric. All of the fifteen books were like that.
They jumped in joy! Now who brought the books? This lady. Did she
say, "I brought them"? OK, she has carried them. Then wherefrom
all the vibhuti? She brought them without vibhuti. She can only
say, "I am totally responsible for carrying the books, but not for
So, knowing fully well what is happening all around, knowing that
Baba does everything for us, can I say "I have done it"? If I say,
"I have done it," what a fool I am! Who can do it through me? So,
my friends, it is very, very, clear that I am not the doer. Since
I am not the doer, I cannot be the enjoyer. So this is what is
called jnana or wisdom. The true wisdom or jnana is the
realization that I am an instrument in the Divine Hands. That is
what Baba says, "You are only an instrument." When once I feel
like an instrument, I will be so humble. I will be so simple.
There will be a quivering. I will be soft. I will be sensitive. I
will be spiritual. On the other hand, if I feel I am the doer,
then I will be highly arrogant and egoistical.
I will tell you another thing. You see we ask Swami so many
things. But let us be very careful what we ask. Let us not ask
anything unknowingly because we are human beings. Given the
intellect and the intelligence, let us know what to ask for.
There is one family from Hyderabad. They come here regularly. They
have been Swami’s devotees for fifty years at least. They had two
You know, Swami often gives His own pet names to devotees. For
example, a fat fellow comes and He calls him, "Hey, Pakora!" That
man’s name is not Pakora. But because he is so fat, Swami calls
him "Pakora," which is a puffy fried food dish in India. If any
tall fellow comes, He will say, "Hey, Coconut Tree, come here,
Coconut Tree!" That is what nickname He calls him. But He puts it
very nicely. So to be called like that by Him is very nice!
For your information, He never calls me by my name at anytime.
Never Anil Kumar. No. He always calls me something like Vaidenti
Mala or Draupadi or Janani Krishnamoorthy: all dancers’ names, all
feminine names. He calls me like that. I do not know why, but
always He will call out, "Hey Dancer, come here. Hey how are you?"
Or "Hey Vaidenti Mala, come here." Or "Hey Chandramayi, how are
you?" Or "Draupadi, how are you?" What am I to say? How feminine
are these names! Then everybody starts laughing! But I do not feel
badly about it. Maybe in a previous birth, I used to be a woman?
Or next life I am going to be a woman? Or in the present life, He
finds a woman in me? I could never understand it. But it is so
nice to be called a pet name by Swami.
So getting back to the story, Swami looked at these two girls of
the couple from Hyderabad and said, "The elder girl is Godavari."
He gave the name Godavari. Looking at the younger girl, He said,
"She is Chitravati." He gave these two names. Since then every
year whenever they came Swami would ask, "Hey, where is Godavari?
Where is Chitravati? Oh, Chitravati is here, not Godavari."
One day these two girls were very close to Swami and they were
offering something to Swami, "Swami, Swami, please, please!"****
They were giving some clothes or something like that saying,
"Swami, Swami!" At that time Swami looked at the second sister,
Chitravati, and asked, "Oh, what do you want?" The girl said, "I
want mukti, liberation." Swami looked at her, "Liberation? You
know what this is? You know what liberation is? Why do you want
liberation, moksha? Why? You know what it is? Who will tell you?
Is it hot or sweet or like cool drinks or ice cream? Who will tell
you what is liberation? What is mukti?" "Well," she said, "Swami,
mukti is the place where You stay." (Swami:)"Oh, I see. Ah ha.
Then when you get mukti, how will you always see your mother? How
will you talk to your father?," asked Swami innocently. "Swami, no
problem. You will make me see my mother and you will make me talk
to my father. So, give me mukti," she said. "Mmmm…," He replied.
They stayed there at Prashanti Nilayam for fifteen days. While the
family was leaving, Swami looked at the mother of these two girls.
Her name is Rajamma. Swami said, "What a pity it is, Rajamma! What
a pity it is! Poor thing!"
Not long after they returned to their home, Chitravati had a
sudden fall. Suddenly she fell down there in the dark. Immediately
the doctor was summoned. The doctor came and declared that she had
an attack of meningitis. Shortly thereafter she died. The family
was really surprised because hitherto she was quite alright. So
suddenly she had collapsed! After some time, they came to
Puttaparti. Swami gave them an interview, consoled the mother and
said, "Your second daughter wanted mukti. What could I do? She
wanted liberation. So I granted it. Why do you cry? She wanted to
merge in me. Why do you cry? She is able to see you now. Why do
you cry? Why do you cry like that?"
So when we ask Swami for what we want, we should be very conscious
of what we ask for. Yes. Because He will grant. He grants
immediately. Are we prepared to receive these things? Are we in a
position to receive such things? That we have to ask ourselves.
On the trip to Kodaikanal, Bhagavan started distributing sarees to
all the air hostesses there on the Indian Airlines aircraft. I
said then, "Swami, you are giving costly sarees to the air
hostesses. Why? Because they receive a very high salary. Air
hostesses there are very well-paid. Why do You give these costly
sarees?" Then He asked, "Are you jealous?" And He added, "I will
give you a saree." I answered, "Swami, there is no chance. I
cannot wear a saree in this life! Let me try next life." And I did
not stop at this. Further I said, "Swami, if I were to wear a
saree now, I am sure that I would be more beautiful than most of
the ladies here!" He laughed and laughed saying, "Is that so?"
"Next life I will try to wear sarees," I said. Then immediately He
looked straight into my eyes and said, "Why? Why saree? Why should
you say that you will be born again? That too in the form of a
woman! Why don’t you pray that you should not be born again? You
should have mukti. You should have moksha, liberation. Why do you
Then I told softly, "Swami, nobody told me how liberation is,
whether it is sweet or hot, whether mukti is tall or short,
whether it is fair or dark? I do not know. But, as a human being,
speaking about You, talking about You, singing Your glory, I know
the charm and the beauty of it. So I do not want mukti, no! I am
sure! I want to be born again and again. I want to be the State
President of Sri Sathya Sai Organization in Andhra Pradesh and I
want to propagate Your message, to go to every village and talk
and sing about You! That is what I want. I do not want that
liberation. Oh no, I do not want it!" Then He said, "Hey!" so
nicely and He added, "It is so good to hear about it." So, my
friends, we ask for certain things about which we do not really
know. Is it not unfortunate? Are we really prepared? So Bhagavan
Baba explains several things for us. We find new revelations
There in the United States one of our devotees attended a music
concert. The artist happened to be Furgison, a famous trumpet
player. He is a very jovial, nice chap. He gave a music concert
and our devotee of Bhagavan Baba also attended that program. The
devotees were sitting in a corner. As a Sai devotee, what is it
you would like to offer? We give a Swami photograph or a vibhuti
packet. These people had with them a very beautiful picture of
Baba. But they were thinking, "How shall we give it to Furgison?
He is there on the dais, playing all the while." (You have to
understand when Furgison plays, he not only plays but his whole
body starts swaying to his tune.)
Those people were feeling badly that they could not figure out a
way to hand over this photograph. Suddenly while playing, Furgison
got off the dais and started moving among the audience. He stopped
right in front of the couple and took Swami’s photograph. He
showed it to everybody and then he said, "I will play a special
song for Sai devotees at that music concert." Then the devotees
who attended the music concert wrote like this: "My prayer has
been answered, Baba. How well You take care of us! How You have
concern for us! How You wanted me to pass on this photograph! Such
a simple thing. But it is proof enough to say that You are always
with me, Swami. You are in me. You are with me, Bhagavan.There is
nothing that I can hide from Your knowledge. You know just how to
answer my prayers!" There is a beautiful article written by that
I also want to tell you another very important story. There is one
gentleman by the name of Narayan, Shankara Narayan, an IAS Officer
whose character was transformed. He served there in the northern
corner of this country in the state named Tripura. As an officer
he was posted there in a place named Ajantha. This man Shankar
Narayan, who was also a Sai devotee, had to work there at the army
camp because it was the time of the Pakistan war and there was
bombing everywhere. The people were trying to go back to their
places, in fear of the bombings. But this Shankar Narayan called
to everybody and told them, "Look here! Swami will protect us. We
do not need to run away from this place here in the state of
Tripura. We do not need to run away from here. Swami will take
care of us. Do not worry!"
His friends responded like this: "Bombing everywhere! You say ‘Do
not be afraid,’ yet we hear the sounds of the bombs and shelling
is going on everywhere!" Then what did they do? They started doing
bhajans. My friends, it is recorded in the records of the
government: "Excepting the places where the bhajans were held, the
rest of the places were bombed!" The rest of the places were
seriously damaged, but the places where they did bhajans, they
were safe in the Hands of Swami!
Swami was telling in a discourse the other day that Narada was
once asking Lord Vishnu, "Vishnu, where are You? I know You have
branch offices. But You are not seen there at any one of Your
branch offices. I want to know where is Your head office. Please
give me Your latest visiting card." And God gave him a visiting
card. What was that address? "My devotee whenever he sings My
glory, I install Myself there. O Narada, take My address! I am
found wherever My glory is sung." So this is the experience of
Shankar Narayan and friends who could see Swami’s presence
whenever they started singing the praises of Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
There in that place called Agathara, there was one family where in
that house lived only one lady staying there with her son. The
husband was hiding there in the closet. The Pakistani soldiers
were striking right there. A lady with her son who was all alone.
Just understand her situation. What to do? She started crying and
singing the glory of Swami. Next morning the war stopped and the
Indian soldiers declared success and victory over there near the
borders. The war stopped and the soldiers marched off. Then she
said, "Swami saved me, my kindly husband, and my country as well."
This is how Bhagavan responds to our prayers everytime whenever we
look to Him.
I should also tell you another instance. There is one gentleman by
the name of Karunyananada, a red-robed man who stayed here for a
long time. Most of you must have seen him. Karunyananada stayed
there in South Prashanti Block I. He spent quite a long period in
the company of Swami. Somebody asked him, "Sir, have you ever been
a witness to any miracles while you were directly in the company
of Swami?" Karunyananda said, "Yes, why not!" And then he told
One day Swami was going with Karunyananda towards Whitefield.
There in the front seat of the car sat Dr. Bhagavantam. In the
back seat, Swami and Karunyananda were sitting. They were
travelling towards Whitefield. Suddenly Swami fell down while
struggling. Karunyananda got up hurriedly and stopped the car and
made Swami rest fully in that back seat. Karunyananda shifted to
the front seat. He sat by the side of Dr. Bhagavantam.
After fifteen minutes, Baba got up. He said, "Karunyananda, are
you afraid of the situation? Don’t worry. Nothing will happen to
Me. I am going to be here in this body for 50-60 years? to come.
Nothing will happen." And then He spoke to Bhagavantam: "Don’t
worry. Your wife just now had a paralytic attack. I went there and
saved her. She is fine now." Tell me, friends, anybody who will
share our difficulties? Who will take upon themselves our
sickness? Who will put themselves to stress and strain and pain
with no gain, with no expectation of return? Show me anybody in
this world! Swami told, "Look here Bhagavantam. Your wife had a
paralytic attack. I went there and I saved her. That is why I fell
down here. Now she is all right." Who else would say that!
There in Brindavan a few years ago it so happened that Swami did
not give darshan for three or four days continuously. Swami was
seriously sick. Doctors started telling that in both His heartbeat
and pulse something was wrong.We got our own medical reports
information…the backdoor information. On the fourth day Swami came
and said, "There is one Bal vikas teacher from Nanital. She has
four children. She had a serious heart attack and she might
collapse anytime. And she has been separated from her husband.
Poor lady! She has to take care of her children. Who will save
her? That is why I went there. All of these four days I stayed
there in Nanital to save My devotee!" This is an instance to show
that Swami is always with us, watching us and taking care of us.
This is the assurance given in Bhagavad Gita: "Whomsoever cries,
whomsoever prays to Me, I will be with him."
Most of you must have heard that Shirdi Baba said, "Why fear when
I am here!" Shirdi Baba also said, "I’ll look to you, if you look
to Me." Sathya Sai Baba says, "I look to you, even if you do not
look to Me!" which is an extension of Shirdi Sai’s message. Shirdi
Sai said, "I look to you if you look to Me." The "if" clause is
there. The conditional clause. But Sathya Sai Baba says, "I look
to you even if you do not look to Me!"
I very well remember a devotee from a village telling me that he
came to this place after a gap of twenty years. Just imagine.
Swami, while giving darshan, went up to him and blessed him
saying, "You are here after twenty years. You must have forgotten
Me, but I have not forgotten you! Your first son must be the
director-manager now. Your second son is an engineer. The second
child was not born right then…" He started telling all the
details. This fellow started shaking. He could understand. His was
a shake dance or what dance, I do not know! He started crying
loudly. So, "I look to you even if you do not look to Me" is
Bhagavan Baba’s declaration. "I install Myself whenever My glory
is sung." These are the declarations of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai
Baba. These are all His cryptic statements given to everybody.
I also know one gentleman who wanted to become a Minister. But he
had no chance as he had no money. (Unless you have money, you
cannot contest in an election. Please believe me. He hailed from
my native place. I can give you all the details. Since you are not
interested, as you do not know that man, I am not giving the
names, that’s all.) That gentleman, who could not afford to pay
the house rent, contested the election and became a Member of the
Assembly. Later he also became the Speaker of the Assembly. Still
later, he became a Member of Parliament and a VIP there. After
all, originally he had been a very poor man. But in Sai we have
all the glory. With Sai we have all the protection. In Sai we find
our refuge. In Sai we find shelter. With Sai we find all the
happiness and comfort. And when once we become Sai, things will
start moving very, very fast, even mundane things, worldly things,
or professional things, everything.
I do not know how many of you have heard of our President Shankar
Dayal Sharma, the President of this country. His son-in-law was a
Member of Parliament, Lalit Markam. While Sharma was the Governor
of Andhra Pradesh, his son-in-law was shot dead. As his son-in-law
was shot dead, Sharma was completely depressed and frustrated. He
had total depression. He immediately came to Prashani Nilayam and
said, "Swami, I lost my son-in-law. My son-in-law was shot dead in
the premises of the Parliament. (The accused were shooting the
whole country in those days.) I want to get out of politics," he
said. Swami said, "You cannot. There is a long way to go. You are
going to become the President of India," He said. Sharma was the
Governor at that time. Look here: He became Vice-President of this
country. Later he became the President of India as predicted by
Bhagavan Baba ten years before.
You must also have heard of Sivaraj Patel, the Speaker of Lok
Sabha in this country. He came to have Swami’s darshan here and
Swami said, "Wait, wait. You are going to become the Speaker of
Lok Sabha." He said, "Swami, do not speak like this. Congress
Party is not in power now and my name is not on the panel. I am
not going to become the Speaker. Please Swami, please don’t say
that. Let not Your words go in vain." Swami’s response: "Shut up!
You are going to become the Speaker, OK?"
By the time he got back to Delhi, the panel of names that they had
had just been rejected. All opposition, everybody, was unanimous
in selecting Sivaraj Patel as the Speaker of Lok Sabha! You know
what he did? He immediately few to Bangalore. He did not take the
oath of office immediately. He did not occupy his chair. He flew
straight to Puttaparti and fell at His feet and cried, "Swami, You
brought me this position. Before the swearing-in ceremony, I
wanted to have Your darshan and go back today." That is Bhagavan
Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
With Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, everyone is bound to be a hero,
I tell you. Everyone is found to be a hero. You will be respected
wherever you will go. You will receive all the esteem and respect
and the glory wherever you go. You will be recognized wherever you
go. People come acting as if in awe, that is all!
Infact I hit on some official work in Hyderabad to settle my
accounts there. I went to the Secretariat. I saw a number of
people waiting at the gate, a number of senior people and
principals and vice-chancellors, who were all waiting to have an
interview with him, the Chief Secretary to the Government of
Andhra Pradesh. Doubting my chances, feeling I am a nobody there,
I sent my visiting card to the Secretary: "Anil Kumar, Prashanti
Nilayam." That is all.
Please believe me, my friends, immediately I was called in there
in front of all the people who had been waiting outside there
before me. They were top people. That gentleman, the Secretary,
kept on asking me, "Oh, where do you come from?" (Anil:)
"Puttaparti." (Secretary:) "How is Sathya Sai Baba? Please tell me
some latest miracles." (Anil:) "All right." When once you ask a
fellow like me to speak, I will go on and on. How about the
fellows waiting outside? They will finish me off! So I was very
quick and I told him certain things. He was so happy. He started
shedding tears. And the P.A. brought the taperecorder and started
recording whatever I was telling him. Then he said that he had
much work to do but he wanted to hear my speech about Swami. I
forgot the purpose for which I had gone there! When I was finished
with my speech and about to leave the room, he asked me, "Why have
you come here?" (Anil:)"Well, Sir, these are my papers."
(Secretary:)"OK. Done. We will do it. Done. Don’t worry."
With Swami behind us, we are everything. Top people were there. I
was told to just go straight into his chamber which is otherwise
possibly impossible! That is Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Swami
is by our side. He has the status. He gives you the status. He
gives all the decorum that is needed at the time so that you are
treated rightly. There was no question of going back to at all. I
can tell you like this how I had so many thrilling experiences,
In fact once when I went to one place, a center by the name of
Kakipet near Hyderabad, the railway superintendent called me. So I
went there. The superintendent of the railway station started
asking me, "Anil Kumar, I could not attend your talk this evening.
I am so busy. Would you please come into my chamber and spend some
time." It was an air- conditioned office. There was still about
one hour to go before my train arrived. Instead of standing there
idle, I could spend some time in his office. I went in and started
talking about Swami. He was so happy. The time was nine o’clock.
It was time for my train to arrive. So I said, "Sir, the train
must be there. Let me go." He said, "Oh, yes, yes, let us go." But
when both of us came out of his chamber office, we saw the train
leaving the platform! I was feeling so badly. "Oh, Baba! Why
should You unnecessarily break me while I am on leave? Why should
that man unnecessarily ask me to talk about You, Baba? I feel
intoxicated. I feel lost the moment I start speaking about You!
This has been my weakness. And this has made me curse now. Swami,
what am I going to do?"
I was feeling so badly. The train left and had gone up to the
railway signal. I was feeling so badly. Please believe me, those
people there can verify what happened next: The train started
running backwards! And then it stopped just where I was standing!
I got onto the train. Do you all expect a train to run backwards?
Huh? When it is running forwards our trains often meet with
accidents. Well then, when they run backwards, avoiding all the
other trains, that is saying a lot about our Swami! Then after I
came here Swami said, "Why should you cry? I made the train come
to you, OK? You don’t need to go to the train!" It was really
So my friends, the life journey with Swami is so pleasant. Open
the door to the sweetening of Baba, who is the sweetest, the
sweetest in life. If at all we have to love anybody in this life,
let us love Swami only. All others are not worth loving at all,
are not worth caring about. Up until the time of departure, the
time of heaven, people dance all around. Afterwards we are left
all alone. But never say you are alone because Baba is with you by
your side. He is there in the hospital, there by your side along
the bedside. He is there to comfort and to console and the
encourage you every time, giving you peace of mind. Bathe in the
light of bliss all the time. Let us grow more and more in devotion
to Swami, as we sing His bhajans, as we hear His leelas, as we go
through His divine discourses. The mightiest divine leela is
incarnate, who is beyond all known and beyond all estimates.
May we spend our lives till the last breath at His Lotus Feet.
Jai Sai Ram
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