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Question 54

How do we know that we are realised? (02.02.03)

Very good. How do we know that we are realised? How do I know that I am rich? I can look in the passbook. I can go to the bank and the cashier will tell me. (Laughter) How do I know that I am educated? I have diplomas and degrees, yes.

How do you know that you are realised? When you forget this ‘I’, you are already realised. (Laughter) If you say, “I know I am rich. I know I am educated. I know I am realised,” then you are not realised because ‘I’ is still there. When you do not exist, then there is realisation, that’s all. Realisation is you. You are the realisation. So, how can you say that you are realised? No, you can’t say that.

Here’s an example. Let’s imagine we have a toy made of sugar candy. To find out how deep the water level is, we put it into a water tank. We drop the sugar toy in, and wait to see it come back up. But what happened? We searched all around, but couldn’t find it. Why didn’t it come back to the surface? It didn’t return because it dissolved.

It is not a problem to solve -- it was just time for it to dissolve. Let us resolve to dissolve, not merely to solve. Therefore, my friends, how do I know I am realised? When the ‘I’ is gone, you are already realised. That is the answer I can give you.

Then in an interview, it was said that there was a lady outside who was already a realised soul, therefore Bhagavan could not give her an interview.

Oh? First of all, if Swami had said to that lady, “You are a realised soul, therefore I have not given you an interview,” that realised soul would not repeat this because realisation is Bhagavan. Bhagavan is realisation. You are realisation. What is the question? Where is the problem of Him saying, “I didn’t call you for an interview because you are realised”? It is gone. The very question is gone because Bhagavan and you are One. That happens to be realisation. That’s all. There’s no question of being called or not being called for an interview. There’s only the question of an inner view and not an interview.

I don’t recall Bhagavan saying to anybody, “You are a realised soul.” The simple fact that we are here means that we have yet to be realised. We have yet to be realised because a realised soul will be in a state of bliss. He does not see a second -- he’s only One-without-a-second, non-dual. Therefore, I don’t understand this problem.

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