Anil Kumar Questions and
Answers
Question 54
How do we
know that we are realised? (02.02.03)
Very good. How do
we know that we are realised? How do I know that I am rich? I can
look in the passbook. I can go to the bank and the cashier will
tell me. (Laughter) How do I know that I am educated? I
have diplomas and degrees, yes.
How do you know
that you are realised? When you forget this ‘I’, you are already
realised. (Laughter) If you say, “I know I am rich. I know
I am educated. I know I am realised,” then you are not
realised because ‘I’ is still there. When you do not exist, then
there is realisation, that’s all. Realisation is you. You are the
realisation. So, how can you say that you are realised? No, you
can’t say that.
Here’s an
example. Let’s imagine we have a toy made of sugar candy. To find
out how deep the water level is, we put it into a water tank. We
drop the sugar toy in, and wait to see it come back up. But what
happened? We searched all around, but couldn’t find it. Why didn’t
it come back to the surface? It didn’t return because it
dissolved.
It is not a
problem to solve -- it was just time for it to dissolve. Let us
resolve to dissolve, not merely to solve. Therefore, my friends,
how do I know I am realised? When the ‘I’ is gone, you are already
realised. That is the answer I can give you.
Then in an
interview, it was said that there was a lady outside who was
already a realised soul, therefore Bhagavan could not give her an
interview.
Oh? First of all,
if Swami had said to that lady, “You are a realised soul,
therefore I have not given you an interview,” that realised soul
would not repeat this because realisation is Bhagavan. Bhagavan is
realisation. You are realisation. What is the question? Where is
the problem of Him saying, “I didn’t call you for an interview
because you are realised”? It is gone. The very question is gone
because Bhagavan and you are One. That happens to be realisation.
That’s all. There’s no question of being called or not being
called for an interview. There’s only the question of an inner
view and not an interview.
I
don’t recall Bhagavan saying to anybody, “You are a realised
soul.” The simple fact that we are here means that we have yet to
be realised. We have yet to be realised because a realised soul
will be in a state of bliss. He does not see a second -- he’s only
One-without-a-second, non-dual. Therefore, I don’t understand this
problem.
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