Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at
February 22, 2004
The Sunday Talk Given by Anil Kumar
February 22nd, 2004
OM… OM… OM…
With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of Bhagavan,
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
On Shivaratri, we heard Bhagavan talk to us about the antithesis
of the mind and our thoughts. Let us also remind ourselves about
what Swami has said pertaining to this topic on earlier occasions.
The whole theme of His Shivaratri talk centered on ‘thought
management’, to put it in modern terminology. Before I go into
detail, I would like to mention a few points.
My friends, the cause of birth and rebirth is the mind. When the
mind carries with it desire after desire, it is the root cause for
rebirth. In other words, the mind is responsible for our birth and
rebirth. The thoughts of the mind have to be carefully looked at.
The mind has to be investigated in depth. All great philosophers,
sages, saints and seers have commented on the mind and its nature.
Bhagavan brings out all that is within us
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba explains the nature of the mind in
the simplest way possible. Gone are the days when we can spend a
lot of time studying. Gone are the days when we can meditate, or
follow some strict spiritual penance or spiritual practice, to
find the solution and be free from the problem. We do not have
adequate time. We do not have adequate energy. We do not have
sufficient background to go into the depth of the subject.
Bhagavan is presenting His views in the simplest way. This is
appropriate for the times we are living in. All of Bhagavan’s
words are practical and applicable to our daily life situations.
That is the reason why people from all over the world run after
Him. He puts things in the simplest way, so that we can implement
it and put His teachings into practice in our daily lives. That is
the reason why at the end of every discourse, if you just follow
the crowd, one person after another will say, “My doubt is
cleared. My question was answered. My search has ended.”
Repeatedly, we hear these comments. This only means that Bhagavan
brings out all that is within us. My friends, it is within this
context that I want to talk to you on certain points pertaining to
the topic of mind and thoughts.
One has to grow beyond the mind
According to Bhagavan, the mind is nothing but a bundle of
desires. He often uses the example of a handkerchief, which is
made up of closely interwoven cotton threads. The cotton is made
into threads and those threads are closely interwoven, making a
handkerchief. Once the threads are removed, the handkerchief does
not exist. This analogy gives us sufficient understanding of the
main problem of life. Every religion emphasises this particular
point that one has to grow beyond the mind.
The question is, how is this possible? Different people suggest
many paths, but Bhagavan puts the answer into one sentence. The
mind, which is made up of desires, can be annihilated or made
functionless by being desireless. Once it is desireless, the mind
no longer exists. So, being desireless is the only way to grow
beyond the mind, or to live in the no-mind state. In Sanskrit, we
call it manolaya. For your information, all I am talking about
comes from Sai literature.
Mind is a bundle of thoughts and counter-thoughts
Mind is a bundle of thoughts and counter-thoughts.
“I shall go now” is a thought. “I shall not go” is the
“It is good to be here” is a thought. “It is not good to be here”
is the counter-thought.
“Better I remain here”, a thought. “Better I get away from here”,
The thought ‘I am following’ may be the correct thought. The
thought ‘I am following’ may be wrong. So, life is full of
thoughts and counter-thoughts.
“Shall I go for darshan or not? Shall I make a trip to Puttaparthi
now or not? Shall I go to bhajans now or not? Shall I stay awake
all night or only until ten o’clock?”
Every situation in life is full of thoughts, ranging from silly
things to spiritual heights. Life is full of thoughts and
counter-thoughts. So the mind is nothing but thoughts and
How to go beyond the mind?
How to go beyond the mind? How to cross beyond the mind? How to be
in a mindless state? How to reach the ultimate goal of spiritual
life? Bhagavan Baba always emphasises this point: “One has to grow
beyond the mind.”
What is the thought-less state of the mind? A moment ago I said
that a desireless state is a state where you can be beyond
thought, and a thought-less state is a state where you can be
beyond the mind. The mind only exists because of desires. The mind
exists because of thoughts and counter-thoughts. These are all
things that Baba has said.
How can we be desireless, how can we be thought-less? This is our
Is it wrong to desire to talk to Swami?
Once a young man asked me, “Mr. Anil Kumar, I have come here for
Swami’s darshan. That is a desire. Is there anything wrong with
this? I wish that He would look at me. Is there anything wrong
with that? You said that being desireless is the goal of life; but
I still have desires to see Swami and talk to Swami. Is anything
wrong with such desires?”
Let us not give our own answer to this question. We may be right
or wrong, because we imagine and speculate. We do not need to do
that, as we are most fortunate to be the contemporaries of the
Avatar. We are blessed being close to Him, and privileged to get
direct answers from Him.
Why speculate and imagine? This only adds to our confusion and
consequently we may confuse others. (Laughter) Let me not commit
that sin, which I have avoided so far. I don’t think that I will
do it in the future either. What I do know, I have taken from
Bhagavan’s point of view. What I do not know, I take the time to
seek clarity about from Him.
I put this question to Swami: “Swami, would You call it a desire
if I want to see You? Would You call it a desire if I want to talk
to You? You said that I should be desireless. What is the
You desire what you do not have
Bhagavan said in simple terms, “Desire means getting what you do
I desire to have a house. Why? Until now, I do not have a house;
so I desire to have one. I desire a job, as I am now unemployed. I
desire to get money because I do not have any. So we desire what
we do not have.
I do not desire a pen because I have two pens now. (Laughter) Why
desire pens unless I want to start a shop? (Laughter) I don’t
desire a big diary like this. Why? I already have this one. So we
don’t desire what we already have. We desire what we do not have.
Swami is already there in you
Now, when you want to talk to Swami, when you want to see Swami,
it is not a desire. Why? Swami is already there in you, but you do
not know it yet. That is why you have the desire. Swami is already
there within us. The problem is that we don’t realise it.
If Swami were not already in us, we would not be here. If Swami
were not already in us, our prayers would not have been answered
to this date. If Swami were not in us, we would not have been
saved from so many dangers, from so many threats, from so many
risks that we have faced up until now. So, all of our experiences,
all of our miracles, prove that Swami is in us.
Outer to inner vision
What does the desire to see Him mean? Absence of realisation! What
does the desire to talk to Him mean? Absence of understanding! So,
when I come to see Him, when I desire to see Him, He will grant me
that desire, so that I can see Him within when I am away from
here. We come here to see Him on the outside, so that we can see
Him on the inside. We talk to Him outside, so that we can talk to
Him within. That is what we call the ‘inner voice’.
Swami is within you. So when you say, “I want to see You,” how can
that be a desire? When Swami says, “You are God,” and “You and I
are One,” when you say, “I want to talk to Him,” is that a desire?
It is not!
It is incorrect from the spiritual point of view, because you are
already God. You are already Divine. We have desires because we
are not realised.
Meditation leads TO A STATE OF NO-THOUGHT
My friends, it is possible to attain a state of no thoughts. How
can we be thought-less? We become thought-less via the channel of
meditation. Meditation is the only process, which leads to a state
of no thoughts.
Some say, “No sir, there are more thoughts when I meditate. When I
do not mediate, I am fine. When I start meditation, it is like the
New York JFK airport -- flights and thoughts of flights are
landing there every five seconds. What shall I do?”
My friends, when there are thoughts during meditation, it is not
meditation at all. No! Real meditation is thought-less. When there
are thoughts, there is avocation. It is provocation. It is not
meditation. We meditate to withdraw the mind. We meditate so that
we are thought-less.
To be one with God we must be without thoughts
To be one with God, we must be without thoughts. If we desire to
realise our Divinity, the process of meditation leads to a state
of no-thought. A simple example: Once you listen to Swami’s
discourse, once you start singing Sai bhajans loudly and to the
correct beat, you find you no longer have thoughts. You are
totally absorbed in Swami’s words. You are totally absorbed in
singing Sai bhajans.
Bhajans lead to a state of no-thoughts
If you are really participating in bhajans, there are no thoughts
in your mind. Those people that have thoughts during bhajans would
be better off at home; at least they can take a rest at home.
Bhajans are meant to make us thought-less (thought-free).
How is this possible? We identify ourselves with the bhajans. We
sing full-throatedly; we clap; we picture the Divine form. We
picture the form of Krishna, Rama, Christ, Buddha or whatever Name
we choose. We sing with the Divine form in our mind and the Name
on our tongue. That is the key to being without thought. It is the
easiest path towards developing a state of no thoughts.
Kundalini Yoga requires strictly regulated pranayama
There are some people who come to me and ask, “Anil Kumar, do you
have any knowledge of kundalini yoga? How do you raise the
I reply, “Until now, I have kept away from that subject. Some
people have said that when their kundalini rose, they had a
nervous breakdown. Others have advised to avoid kundalini
manifestations or expressions. The lungs get spoiled.”
It is clearly said that kundalini yoga requires pranayama, or a
strictly regulated breathing process. It is a scientific,
technical process. If the breathing process is regulated under the
strict supervision of an experienced, selfless, noble soul, then
you will be able to realise it subjectively. But, if you are
practicing other ways directed by your own imagination, your
health will be totally upset.
Kundalini is not given to everybody
Bhagavan said this in Dhyana Vahini. Please believe it. Pranayama,
the breathing process, and kundalini, are not given to everybody.
It is a very tough process. It should be done under the guidance
of an experienced and selfless preceptor, not under the direction
of any Tom, Dick or Harry, for the purpose of making money.
I have not delved into kundalini yoga yet, because I do not want
to be hurt, nor do I wish to forego liberation.
Easiest way to let go of thoughts is path of Bhajans
My friends, the easiest way to let go of one’s thoughts is the
path of sankirtan or bhajans. It does not need any special space.
It does not need any special time. It does not need any special
assistance or supervision, nor does it cost you anything. Just
play the tape. While listening to it, you forget yourself.
Just get up in the morning and play the cassette of your choice,
or participate in singing bhajans in the company of others. When
you are alone and listening to a Bhagavan cassette, you cannot
help but cry. Tears start rolling down your cheeks without your
realising it. Why? When you are alone, you need the company of
God. Once you need the company of God, you start thinking about
Him. When you start thinking about Him, you start singing. When
you start singing and stop thinking, you no longer exist. You are
not there; only Bhagavan is there! That is the thought-less
(thought-free) state of meditation.
Bhajan and japa - WAYS to withdraw the mind
So my friends, meditation is a process, which leads to a state of
no thoughts. This state is the ultimate aim of all sadhana. All
spiritual sadhana, be it pranayama, bhajans, or whatever else,
should lead to the withdrawal of all our thoughts. That is the
thought-less state, which Ramana Maharishi emphasises.
Adi Shankara emphasises how one can withdraw one’s thoughts. This
is done via the practice of bhajans, also called sankirtan, or
dhyana, which is meditation. We are familiar with sankirtan; but
what is meditation or dhyana? It is nothing but the process of
Recently, Bhagavan said: “The answer to the question ‘Who am I?’
is: Soham, Soham - I am That, I am That’. Tat Twam Asi - That you
are.” This is the path of Self-enquiry, which leads to jnana via
the process of dhyana or meditation.
The process of singing leads to a state of being without thought,
by becoming one with the deity whose glory you are singing. I
think I am quite clear. Sankirtan, dhyana, bhajan and jnana are
excellent, simple, easy ways to withdraw our mind, to bring about
How do we become desireless? We now have sufficient information on
thought-lessness. Let us now consider how to be desireless.
Desire never takes you to an higher level
We have endless desires. In the beginning, I came here with the
desire to see Swami. Then a humble desire to get the first row
developed. Then that humble desire became the wish that Swami
would pass along the line where I sat. Then the next desire was to
have a chance to pass on a letter to Him. Then came the next
desire: ‘If possible, let me get an interview.’ The next desire
was to get some recognition from Him. The next desire: ‘Let me be
the only fortunate man to whom Swami will speak.’ The final
desire, the climax of all desires: ‘Let me be the only privileged
fellow.’ Ah! Ah! (Laughter) Desire is an unfortunate thing. Desire
never takes us to a higher level!
I desire Moksha, liberation
Some people say, “I desire moksha, liberation.”
I think about looking at them and saying, “Why do you desire
moksha? Has anyone told you what moksha is?”
It is like someone saying, “Anil Kumar, this is moksha,” while
showing a sweater, a pie or a donut, feeling that moksha is
something wonderful and beautiful. (Laughter) Everyone has said
that moksha or liberation is most beautiful; so let me try to see
it. But nobody has reported directly on moksha. All information is
second-hand information, bookish knowledge. None of it has
anything to do with reality. The people who desire it don’t
exactly know what it is that they desire.
Once Bhagavan said, “Anil Kumar, what do you want? What do you
want Me to give you?”
I replied, “Swami, why should I ask for anything from God, who is
giving me everything without my asking? When You ask, ‘What do you
want,’ I must search for a want. I have not asked for anything
because You have given me everything that I want. Do not tempt me
like that.” (Laughter)
After some time, an older man started to speak about moksha. Then
Swami said to me, “Do you want moksha? I will give it to you!”
I said, “Why should I ask for something when I have no idea of
what it is?”
Then He said, “Then, what do you want?”
“I want what I have already experienced - closeness to Bhagavan.
It is an opportunity and a blessing to listen to Your discourses.
I do not want anything else, because I know the taste of this. The
greatest service is to share Your message with a number of people,
and in as many places as possible. This is what I want. I want
I know the joy and the thrill of sharing Sai’s messages with
people. When people come and say, “Anil Kumar, we enjoyed your
talk,” I am right on top of a mountain. (Laughter)
People come and say, “We have learned so many things! Without you,
this would not have been possible.” Yes! That makes me extremely
happy. I feel like a millionaire. This is what I want to do for a
number of lives to come. I want nothing else.
Let me desire what makes me desireless
My friends, what does desire mean? Let me desire that which makes
me desireless, as every other desire leads me to yet another
desire. There is no end to desires.
If you desire God, you cannot desire anymore. God is amongst us.
If you desire God, there is nothing else. You can be desireless by
desiring God. When He is with you, the whole world is with you.
When He is not with you, even if the whole world is with you, life
is empty and meaningless. Without God, we will not have any peace
of mind. We will not have any bliss.
Men of God
We know many rich people and what has happened to them. We know
many people in very high positions and know what kind of life they
are leading. But watch men of God. See how peaceful and how happy
they are. They are sathwic. They appear to be without comfort or
conveniences, yet in their heart-of-hearts, they are full of
bliss. Their faces are full of smiles. Their life is a
celebration. Men of God are very peaceful. People desire their
company. People are drawn to them. They attract everybody. With
some people, we feel we are with God. Why? Some people have this
attractive power, as they are men of God.
If men of God are attractive, how can God Himself be other than
one hundred percent a magnet? God is the biggest magnet!
Let us Desire God - there is nothing beyond that
What do we do to become desireless? Let us desire God! There is
nothing beyond that. So my friends, to be without thought, one has
to meditate. To be desireless, one must desire God. This leads to
the highest accomplishment in life.
‘But where is God?’ God is already here. Let us realise how great
we are and how rich we are, as God is already within us. What more
can we want than to know this! “The Kingdom of Heaven is within in
you,“ says the Holy Bible. When you are a king yourself, why do
you need to beg?
Bhagavan’s talk on Shivaratri was about the mind and thoughts. If
there are thoughts, let us ensure that they are holy, that they
are sacred. If I cannot be free from thoughts, at least let them
be sacred and holy.
The mind makes heaven out of hell and hell out of heaven. By
having holy thoughts, my life will be holy. By having sacred
thoughts, my life will be sacred.
My classmate of fifty years AGO
I want to let you know how thoughts work. I met a person on
Shivaratri who happened to be my classmate in school fifty years
ago or even more. Without notice, he rushed to my apartment. I did
not recognise him because, after fifty years, like anyone else, he
was out of shape and out of proportion. (Laughter) He was very
difficult to recognise. Of course, I must have been difficult to
recognise, too. Yet, I was courteous enough not to show my
confusion and inability to recognise him. After hearing my name,
he said, “We were classmates, you know, fifty years ago.”
I said, ”I am sorry. I forgot.” Then I asked him, “What are you
He said, “I am a doctor.”
I said, “Very fine, good! And who is she (the person with him)?”
He said, ”She is my wife.”
I said, “Wonderful! So nice to have met you again after fifty
Then I started recalling some of my past and some of my
classmates. He started speaking more about them, too. Watching
both of us, people around must have thought we were two crazy
fellows meeting. (Laughter) Some must have thought that these two
fellows must have escaped from a mental asylum, because we were
laughing hysterically! (Laughter) To go back into the past, so
many years ago - ah! How amazing! There is nothing like
remembering the past. Our school days were most beautiful.
Suddenly his wife said, “I forced my husband to come to meet you
today. He doubted that you would recognise him.” But I said, “It
does not matter!”
I said to her, “Double thanks to you. Thanks for having brought
him here. I am very grateful.”
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, the Surgeon
Then my classmate, whose name is Shyamsundar, a military doctor in
Medak in the State of Andhra Pradesh, started telling me that he
had stayed in different places such as Bombay and Puna, until
suddenly and unfortunately, his enemies threatened his life. One
day, they stabbed him. His condition was critical. He was admitted
to the hospital in Puna. The doctors immediately operated him on.
Because of the seriousness of the stabbing injury, the doctors
came out and said, to his wife, “Madam, your husband will not
survive. We have lost hope. We did all that was possible!” Then
My friends, I am giving you his name and address, so that any
‘doubting Thomas’ will not question me. You can verify the story
with him. I obtained his permission to tell this story to
everybody, because anything that is mentioned by Anil Kumar will
be broadcast and telecast everywhere! (Laughter)
So, the doctors said that this man had no chance of surviving the
stabbing and left the wife, who was waiting outside the theatre,
Then I said to my old friend, “You stop speaking now, because when
you were there in the hospital, you must have been under
anesthesia or sedation. Therefore, you cannot know what happened.
You keep quiet and let your wife tell the story.” Then I told his
wife, “Now you speak.” (Laughter)
She started telling me the story: “You are right, Mr. Anil Kumar.
He did not know. I told him what happened only later.” I need only
first-hand information, so ladies first! (Laughter) When she
started talking, she was crying.
Please believe me, my friends. I am speaking in the Divine
presence of Bhagavan with first-hand information. She saw Bhagavan
Sri Sathya Sai Baba, in physical form, walking along the corridor.
He opened the door to the surgery theatre and went in. After one
hour, Bhagavan came out of the theatre. This lady was waiting
outside because she was not permitted to go in. The doctors had
said, “Do not go in.”
After a couple of hours, some doctors came and examined the
patient again. Then they came to his wife and said, “Amma, your
husband is out of danger. There was a cut on one side. We don’t
know how that incision got there.”
Then this doctor friend of mine lifted his shirt and said, “This
is the original cut made by the surgeons. This is the second cut
made by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, the Divine Surgeon. As a
result of His intervention, you find me here this morning, talking
The recipients of His Divine Grace best know how Swami saves
lives. It is not to be questioned. We know that Swami is in us. We
have often read heard Him say that God is above you, below you,
around you and in you. So nice! But we don’t have that awareness,
totally, through the day. Constant Integrated Awareness is a state
of being, where one has that awareness throughout the day. I was
unable to speak to anybody after my old school mate had showed me
both cuts. That is Bhagavan!
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba as custom official
I know that some of you must have heard me mention a devotee who
lived in Los Angeles, California, in the United States, for ten or
fifteen years. His parents wanted him to come back home for good,
so he packed all his things and returned. Now he is a resident of
Hyderabad. He is a young man and an eligible bachelor. His parents
wanted me to find him a suitable bride. I don’t think that I am
suited for that job. (Laughter) His looks are not appealing to me,
so I cannot recommend him to anybody. (Laughter) But, I said that
I would try.
With delight, I wanted to share this experience of his with Sai
brothers and sisters this morning. This young man had lived in
L.A. for a little over a decade. So when he left, he brought with
him everything that was precious to him. By the time he finished
packing, he had a lot of luggage.
When he reached Mumbai, the officials said, “Overloaded! You have
brought so much luggage! You must pay over 10,000 rupees.”
This young man thought that it was not worth all that. It would be
better that they take the luggage. He said, “I don’t want all
He contacted his sister by cellular phone. She said, “Don’t worry,
I will send you the money, so you can have your things.”
He said, “I don’t want them. It is not worth spending the money!”
It was midnight. All of us know that most of the flights arrive at
midnight. There were long queues while the custom officials were
checking his luggage. One of the custom officials said to him, “I
know you are a Sai devotee. You are clear. You can go!” (Laughter)
Straight! (Laughter) No checking! No payment required! The young
man did not know the official. He had never met him before.
The devotee then went to find out about the local flight. Out of
courtesy, he wanted to thank the custom official. He went back and
stood at the counter. Once he cleared the customs, he could not go
back inside. He wanted to wave his thanks to the custom official
from outside, through the glass. But the official was not there.
(Laughter) He spent an hour and a half searching all over the
airport and was in such a state because he could not find him.
Yesterday that man said to me, “Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba
served as that custom official.” (Laughter)
I said, “Good! Swami, what is the role that You cannot take?” Only
yesterday, He told me that He remembered well a similar thing
happening to me.
Swami wanted me to go to Bangkok. Well, I simply went to Bangkok,
but I did not have a visa to allow me to move around that place. I
never thought it was necessary to have a visa. (Laughter) I do not
think along those lines.
I got there and they asked, “Do you have a visa?”
I said, “No, I don’t have one.”
Then they said, “You cannot stay here. Go back.”
I found long queues of people waiting to have their luggage
checked. I wondered what I was to do about my luggage.
I climbed down the steps, feeling desperate. I thought, ‘OK, let
me go back. What is here anyway? I don’t have any investments
here. If permitted, I’ll give three talks. If not permitted, I’ll
just go back.’
Suddenly, I found a person in front of me. He was well dressed,
wearing a dark blue suit, a dark tie and a blue shirt, and he was
quite handsome. I began speaking about my experience.
He was smiling and said, "Hi, Anil Kumar.” I thought that maybe
there was another passenger called Anil Kumar. You are from
Prashanti, sir, right?”
I said, “Yes, I am.”
“Oh, I see. What is the problem?”
I said, “Sir, I do not have a visa. I thought they would permit me
to enter the country without one. (Laughter) I do not have a visa
and there is a long line for the baggage and security check. What
am I to do?”
“Don’t worry, follow me,” he said.
“I should join the queue. Why do you want me to follow you?”
“Don’t worry! Come with me.”
To my great surprise, everybody everywhere in the airport just
greeted him by saying, “Hi! Hi! H!” I thought to myself that he
must be a very, very important person. (Laughter)
Then he said, “You don’t have to stand here. Follow me.” So, no
queue; I simply followed him! (Laughter)
Then he said, “What do you want?”
He said, “Ah, yes! Come on.”
He took me to a place and asked me to enter a glass chamber-like
thing. I went inside. They took my photograph and right there,
they issued me with a visa.
Then he said, “Come on. Let’s go!”
“Wait a moment. What is this? Where are you taking me? Who are
He said, “Mr. Anil Kumar, I am Jumsai. I often come to Prashanti
Nilayam. (Laughter) I know you.”
“Ah, this is wonderful! How could you get me the visa so quickly?
How could you help me avoid that long queue?”
He said, “I am related to the royal family. I am a member of the
Parliament. I am a leading scientist. Above all, I am a Sai
devotee. So let’s go!” That is Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
Constant integrated awareness
My friends, so many things are happening in our lives, yet we
don’t recognise Him all the time. That is the problem. When we
always feel Him throughout our lives, it means that we are living
in a state of Constant Integrated Awareness, as Bhagavan puts it.
The quintessence of Bhagavan’s talk was that one could be
thought-less apart from having one thought only - the thought of
Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. One can be desireless if one desires
the grace and the presence of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
The best way to withdraw the mind to the thought-less state or the
desire-less state is to meditate on Him or sing His glory,
whichever is the best and the easiest way.
Questions AND ANSWERS
Merging into Brahman, there is NO COMING back
Q. “What about merging with Brahman at the end of all creation and
returning in the next creation in another human form?”
I would like to draw your attention to an interesting question
that was passed on to me this morning. The question concerns the
process of merging with Brahman at the end of all creation and
returning in the next creation in another human form.
My friends, there is a very simple answer. Merge means ‘no
return’. A simple example: a spoon of sugar is mixed in water. It
becomes totally immersed, totally dissolved. Now I say, “Oh,
sugar, come on, come on out!” I cry. I do penance. I sing bhajans.
Still, I do not get the sugar. It is impossible!
To merge is total. Merging is not partial. Once you are merged in
Brahman, there is no question of coming back. There is no other
creation possible. You have become one in Brahman.
The other day, Bhagavan gave an example: You find a river. Rivers
have different names and forms. As they flow, they pass different
cities; they travel down the valley, up the hill and finally they
merge in the ocean. Once a river merges in the sea, if you stand
in front of the sea and say, “I want my river, I want the
Mississippi River and so on,” the sea will say, “Oh fool, go
back!” Once a river merges in the sea, there is no return. That is
the answer I can give you. To merge means ‘no return’!
ONCE WE MERGE WITH GOD, IT IS FOREVER
Q. “Once we merge with God, is it forever? Will it mean that we
won’t ever take any form again, even if God wills it?”
When you are one with God, you are God, and you no longer exist.
You are not there. Once you are merged with God, just as the river
that merged into the ocean no longer exists, you no longer exist.
Am I correct? So once you are with Brahman, coming back does not
exist. ‘I’-ness is God. That is called merging. Am I clear on this
WHY THE LINGAM?
Q. “Sathya Sai Baba produced three Atma-Lingams as part of
Lingodbhava on Friday, February 18th. What did He do with the
Lingams? Did He use them for something? Did He create them for
somebody or for the world?”
“What did He do with the lingams? Ah! Ah!” (Laughter) My friends,
what did He do with the lingams?
First, let us know why He creates the lingam. Bhagavan has said
that the lingam is present in everybody. But the lingam that is
present in Bhagavan emerges in solid form because of His Will.
The lingam is present in everyone near the navel. That gold, which
is near the navel, is in a liquid form. But in Bhagavan, it takes
a solid form and emerges during what we called Lingodbhava,
occurring on Shivaratri. When the Shiva lingam emerges, a terrific
heat is produced within the body. This is necessary for the liquid
to take the solid form. (These are all the words of Bhagavan, not
my imagination. Please be aware of that.)
When the heat is generated, the body appears to shiver, the body
appears to have fallen sick, and the body appears to have become
weak. These are all the signs of the liquid turning solid by the
heat generated there.
Swami has said, “Nothing can ever happen to me. The lingam is the
finest symbol of Divinity, like a national flag.” The symbol for
lingam is the origin of creation. Lingam is that into which all
creation will finally merge. Lingam is the origin and the end of
The next question is: What does He do with the lingams?
I know Swami has presented lingams to some devotees who do regular
worship. The Shiva lingam requires a specific ritual to be
followed. There are some people who are ritualistic, who are
orthodox. Swami may present a lingam to them.
Other times, the lingam disappears. When we asked Swami where the
lingams are, Bhagavan answered, “They have gone back to the place
where they came from. They went back to their source.”
Both possibilities are there. That is the answer.
HOW TO GET SWAMI’S GRACE
Q. “How does one get Swami’s Grace?”
A good question. “How does one get Swami’s Grace?” My friends, it
is not a thing to be got. You cannot go to the store and buy it.
How do we get bread? We go to the bakery and buy it. How do we get
ice cream? There is an ice-cream parlor here. How does one get
God’s Grace? It is not to be got.
“Oh! I see! Why not?”
“It is already there. God’s Grace is not to be got. It is already
“Oh, I see! Then why don’t I know it?”
Swami gave this example: When you want to hold water in your hands
to drink, what should you do? You go to the tub of water. If you
hold your hands down, you cannot hold water from the tub. If you
cup your palms together, you can hold water and then drink it.
There is water and there is the tub. Water is flowing
continuously, but in order to retain it, you need to hold your
palms upward and cupped together.
Similarly, Grace is always there, like the continuous flow of the
water; but if your heart is turned upside down, you cannot
experience the Grace. Grace is already there. That is the example
that Bhagavan has given and that I want to share with you.
Bhagavan, let us be convinced that Your Grace is already there
with us. We should turn our hearts towards You to collect the rain
of Your Grace, to retain the rain of Your Grace. Let our hearts be
positive. That is what we should do.
THE REAL PRASHANTI NILAYAM IS WITHIN THE HUMAN HEART
Q. “How does one settle in Prashanti Nilayam?”
First, let me ask you this question: “Where is Prashanti Nilayam?
Is this place here Prasanthi Nilayam?” No! Prashanti Nilayam is in
your heart. Where there is shanti, where there is peace, where
there is bliss - that is Prashanti Nilayam. If I am annoyed, if I
am agitated, if I am disturbed, if I am nervous, if I am angry and
harsh with everybody, how can this be Prashanti Nilayam, or in
fact how can I claim to be in Prashanti Nilayam? Prashanti is a
state of mind!
Prashanti is a state of mind. Prashanti is an attitude. Nilayam is
the center. So, Prashanti is in the mind and the heart. To be
settled in Prashanti Nilayam is to be constantly thinking of
Swami, constantly praying to Him, constantly reading His
literature, constantly repeating His Name. Only then, can you be
in Prashanti Nilayam.
I may be in Prashanti Nilayam doing business. I may be in
Prasanthi Nilayam with my mind full of politics. What for? That is
only the physical Prashanti Nilayam. The real Prashanti Nilayam is
in the mind. It is in your attitude. You are already there.
Instead of asking questions about how to settle in the physical
Prashanti Nilayam, let us ask the question, “Why am I unsettled?”
A child is in prashanti or supreme peace. Let us watch a child
sleeping Ah! Bliss! If you watch an elderly person sleep, it is
often disturbing. If he snores, he looks like an animal from the
zoo. Why? Because his mind is full of desires and attachments, so
he cannot have a good sleep.
Prashanti Nilayam is in the mind, the human heart, and in one’s
attitude. So we are already settled. The reason that we feel
unsettled is because of desires and attachments. Because of these
things, I am unsettled. The moment I am separate from these
things, I can go back to my original place of peace.
That is why Bhagavan continually addresses us as “Embodiments of
Love, Embodiments of Divine Atma, and Embodiments of Peace.” It
means that we are peace itself.
Unfortunately, we have reduced this peace to pieces. We already
are bliss, but we have made life miserable. So, let us question
why we are unsettled. The reasons for our state of being unsettled
are our attachments, possessiveness, pride and ego. Once we are
free from these, we are already in Prashanti Nilayam!
HAVE SINGLE- POINTED AND UNWAVERING DEVOTION
Q. “Baba says that He does not transfer His power to anybody. In a
few places, we find vibhuthi manifested and some people who are
able to materialise vibhuthi and the lingam, etc. Is this not a
transfer of power?”
My friends, please be attentive. Anybody may materialise vibhuthi;
anybody may materialise a lingam. However, Baba creates vibhuthi
to make you more spiritual, to make you detached, to make you
desireless, to encourage you to perform sadhana, to make you
noble, to improve you. That is the purpose of vibhuthi.
Baba materialises the lingam to show you your place of origin and
the place where you will ultimately merge. That is the final goal
of existence. Let us not talk about others; let us not think of
others. Let us only think of Bhagavan.
That does not necessarily mean that I should not go to a certain
other place. I may find some other person that is as beautiful as
my mother, but I cannot call her mother. Isn’t that true? God
wants unalterated, unpolluted and single-pointed, steady devotion.
Please remember this: Let us not be carried away by anything that
we come to know, or by anything that we hear. God wants us to be
single-minded. God wants us to have an unwavering mind. In this
context, let us not think about others.
Will Baba show the whole world that He is God?
Q. Will Baba show the whole world that He is God in His present
body, or in the body of Prema Sai? Will Baba show that He is God
now? Or, will He show this as Prema Sai, the next Incarnation?
My friends, the answer is straightforward. He need not show that
He is God because He is God. Showing is only necessary when one is
not that. I give a show that I am God, as people do not experience
that I am God. Showing indicates a division. Showing is
artificial. Showing is pompous. Showing is self-praise. Baba need
not show that He is God because He is already God. Am I clear? He
is already accepted as God, as there is no country, no island, no
place where He is not known. Everybody knows him. He is
materialising everything. He is manifesting His Divinity.
OM… OM… OM…
Asato Maa Sad Gamaya
Tamaso Maa Jyotir Gamaya
Mrtyormaa Amrtam Gamaya
Om Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu
Om Shanthi Shanthi Shanthi
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